Differences

[SWANK-E]

I might be naive about all this but I am particularly concerned about how this forum talks of Bream as they are only 1 species and habitat.

As we all know the more aggressive yellow fin up north is quite different to the southern blacks. Different spawning habits, spawing times, habitats and food sources and therefore different in how we tackle them.

Shouldn't we specify and seperate the different species when we are giving advices and also talk about the location/habitats as even the behavior in the yarra river (they don't seem to take the lures on the pause) could be quite different to that elsewhere.

Books such as Starlo and Bushys is good but sometimes is written in the context of things further north (such as when they mentioned surface fizzers because of cicadas in NSW or up further north).

Anyway, sorry for rambling, but I am just posing what I believe is an important question and possibly how this website can be even more efficient in the sharing of information.

What does everyone think?

[torvic]

Actually I dont think that really matters as Bream seem to have different habits every day anyway. As the guys here are fond of saying, the best way to catch these little buggers is to be flexible and to try all sorts of things until something works.

[mike_mad_fisho]

gday
yeah i agree torvic one day the might be attacking a slow retreive the next they might be going for a eratic retreive. and they might not be there the next day.
thanks michael

[pete s]

yarra bream most certainly do take a lure on the pause...ive watched them do it many times

whatever you read about yellowfin bream.....double the difficulty for blackies

ive also seen a fair few cicadas down anglesea way.....especially near the river

[Bear]

I tend to find that guys will say where they are fishing and what bream they are taking, but good point.

[Bream Master]

It would be interesting to compare say Black Bream in WA and the same in Vic. At least they are the same species.

Warren

[pete s]

i'll be the tester!!!!!

just might not be for a month or 12

[Kaisemurangdai]

Swank-E,

I agree with you, it doesn't hurt to specify which type of Bream and species specific information can only help . Of course no one is suggesting we need to be overly pedantic and buy latin dictionaries.

It should make specific searches easier and if it makes research easier then I am for it. All the discussion on here is actually a very rich resource for anyone wishing to research Bream Fishing and species naming would definitely be an assett.

While I am on the subject, I know the European Bream is a different species, but is it of the same family and do Europeans persue it as a sport fish. Does anyone know.

Trev

[pw-bream]

Originally posted by Kaisemurangdai
While I am on the subject, I know the European Bream is a different species, but is it of the same family and do Europeans persue it as a sport fish.

The bream in Britain is a completely different species to ours.
Our Bream were named that due to their superficial resemblance to the Bream that the Brits were familiar with.

Ours are of the Sparidae family, and are named Acanthopagrus *whatever*, theirs are members of the Carp family and are named Abramis Brama (Common Bream). Theirs grow to 10 pounds plus and don't live as long as ours. They live in slow/sluggish water, so may not be too lively when caught.

[mike_mad_fisho]

gday
in qld i think the main bream we cathc are the yellow fin bream and can they be hard to catch on artificials.??
thanks michael

[SWANK-E]

mike,

this is what pete s had to say about yellow fin

''whatever you read about yellowfin bream.....double the difficulty for blackies ''

you also get the pikey bream if i understand correct.

[Dave W]

You've made a good point - although I'd like to believe there is something useful in all the information posted about fishing tactics.

Comparing Yellowfin's to Blackies is hard (just ask me ) but if you catch say... 20 Yella's using a certain technique, does that mean you'll only get 5 Blackies doing the same thing?

You've got to give it a go to find out

[pw-bream]

I grew up catching bream in East Gippsland, we had a mix of the Southern Black Bream (A. Butcheri) and Yellowfin Bream (A. Australis) and would pull them out of the same places with the same techniques on bait.