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Old 17-02-2016, 02:35 AM
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How to smooth over a nick on spool lip

So I ended up buying a "near new" Rarenium on another website.
Unfortunately one of the spools has quite a nick on the lip.
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Any suggestions on how to get rid of it? I was thinking of sanding it down. Not too bothered about how it looks afterwards as long as its smooth.
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Old 17-02-2016, 02:53 AM
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Ill ask the boys in the tool room as far as i know they polished mine.
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Old 17-02-2016, 03:27 AM
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Old 17-02-2016, 03:54 AM
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This is in no way an endorsement as I have never used the product - but I remember some ads from a long time ago where the guy shaped it into a hammer and bashed in nails.

I'm not even sure if it was Selleys Knead It.

But I thought here, was as good a place as any, to ask - has anyone used this stuff (or similar) and could it be used for repairing chips on a spool.

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Old 17-02-2016, 05:06 AM
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If your going to use knead it, your going to have to give it some purchase by either drilling or grinding it down further than it is - once applied then you'll have to smoothen it down further. It's rock hard once set and don use your bare fingers as its a carcinogen (use gloves or a plastic bag).

What I would do is mix up a small amount of rod epoxy and dip a bit on the end of a toothpick and drop it into the cusp of the ding and allow surface tension act on it and either with a blade when set shape it and use 3000 wet & dry or a lambs wool polishing wheel with a polishing agent on it to buff it up smooth and nice.

Some dents should be left and if just smoothed over with a hard surface like a frying pan sode and just ensure that line doesn't get caught on it or cut by it.
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Old 17-02-2016, 06:23 AM
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OK. Don't have any rod epoxy but a work at a school. Will see what they have about in the area they do woodwork etc.
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Old 17-02-2016, 07:31 AM
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If your going to use knead it, your going to have to give it some purchase by either drilling or grinding it down further than it is - once applied then you'll have to smoothen it down further. It's rock hard once set and don use your bare fingers as its a carcinogen (use gloves or a plastic bag).

What I would do is mix up a small amount of rod epoxy and dip a bit on the end of a toothpick and drop it into the cusp of the ding and allow surface tension act on it and either with a blade when set shape it and use 3000 wet & dry or a lambs wool polishing wheel with a polishing agent on it to buff it up smooth and nice.

Some dents should be left and if just smoothed over with a hard surface like a frying pan sode and just ensure that line doesn't get caught on it or cut by it.
Thanks for that Slazmo - I've used 90 second araldite to repair dings in a bail arm and spool lip in the past. It didnt last long but it lasted long enough for the spare parts to arrive

Its worth noting that the way I prepare a surface before gluing is shameful

How would you prepare that spool lip before applying the epoxy?
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Old 17-02-2016, 07:49 AM
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Actually dont worry about that last question - I just googled it

- the stuff I used to consider "preparation" isnt even on their list of things to do

So Dr Luvski - For a full run down on every surface known to man - visit this page - I'm not sure what metals are used in the rarenium spool but I'm sure they will be here somewhere - different metals require different prep.

According to this page - a finger print can stuff everything up and so can a speck of dust.


https://www.smooth-on.com/Adhesive-B...ing/pages.html


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For one the HA (hard anodizing) of the spool lip wouldn't see any epoxy bond to it for any real time, given the usual harsh environment reels are subjected to - heat (expansion of the aluminum), moisture and vibration.

Mechanically sanding the surface would be my choice to rid that spot of all anodizing first and back to aluminum and then a dab of phosphoric or hydrochloric in that exact spot and then prepsol'ing the surface prior to application of said two part epoxy or knead it if the gape allowed a good stable spot to reside.

If it were my spool and it had a really nasty knock I probably would take it to a welder and get them to tig a 'bird poo' weld and I'd polish it back to spool shape.

On a small spool and with a insignificant ding as such, as long as it doesn't affect the lines propulsion off the spool or have sharp edges to fray line as it comes off I would leave it th.
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Old 17-02-2016, 03:57 PM
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For one the HA (hard anodizing) of the spool lip wouldn't see any epoxy bond to it for any real time, given the usual harsh environment reels are subjected to - heat (expansion of the aluminum), moisture and vibration.

Mechanically sanding the surface would be my choice to rid that spot of all anodizing first and back to aluminum and then a dab of phosphoric or hydrochloric in that exact spot and then prepsol'ing the surface prior to application of said two part epoxy or knead it if the gape allowed a good stable spot to reside.

If it were my spool and it had a really nasty knock I probably would take it to a welder and get them to tig a 'bird poo' weld and I'd polish it back to spool shape.

On a small spool and with a insignificant ding as such, as long as it doesn't affect the lines propulsion off the spool or have sharp edges to fray line as it comes off I would leave it th.
You've just given me an acid flash back

The last time I mucked around with acids was many moons ago, when I was labouring for a landscaper.

We retiled the clients pool area with sand stone pavers and planted a border of evergreens for shade. In Autumn the boss gets a call to say those evergreens are dropping leaves everywhere and the client wasnt sweeping them up. So when they got wet, the tannins in the leaves would leech out and stain the tiles.

I snapped the scrubbing broom early in the piece because the stains were so hard to remove and I was really leaning on it. So guess who got to crawl around on his hands and knees with a bucket of watered down acid and a busted broom head for 4 hours.

A ventilation mask would have been nice, as would knee pads but at least he gave me some rubber gloves

I think that day had a profound effect on my willingness to clean surfaces properly.
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Old 17-02-2016, 04:46 PM
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I would just leave it or if there's a nick that may affect the line, just take the edge off with wet and dry. I have a couple spools that i have dropped on concrete leaving a small flat ding and have done similar. I wouldn't over think it
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Old 18-02-2016, 12:25 AM
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Yeah, I had the same thing on the weekend, bought a Sienna reel for my sons Birthday & promptly dropped it on concrete whilst removing it from the stupid clear plastic shell packaging for him. I used the diamond file on my Leatherman Wave multitool to buff out the ding, worked a treat.
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Old 18-02-2016, 06:07 AM
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Thanks for all the advice. I ended up getting some wet and dry today and had a go at getting it out. The nick is still there but much smaller and pretty smooth. I'll use this reel for the heavier braid and the other spool for the lighter braid.
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