Certate Vs Steez Vs Morethan

Brams · #1 15-02-2015, 10:58 AM

Hi guys,

I'm after a new reel for my newly purchased battler shorehunter, and wondering about the differences between the reels. The morethan has come into the same price range as the steez, the $750 to 800 mark. Will I notice a difference in smoothness between the two, and will they be different to the certate?
Cheers guys,

Brams

Twoshoes · #2 15-02-2015, 03:37 PM

This probably won't help a lot but I have mine matched to a 3500HD Certate and find the combo nearly unstoppable for most species I chase. It doesn't fish at all like an 8'6 rod (I fish it quite a lot chasing snapper in plastics) but you do notice the casting distance, and it has the power down low to drag in annoying tuna rolling on their sides.

matt jorg · #3 15-02-2015, 10:32 PM

Great rod choice mate! I have the 3012h certate on mine. It's bewdiful!!!
The way I see it is the branzino is the same reel with magseal bearings either side of the handle and a black paint job. Don't get me wrong I'd love one but are they worth double a certate???
The steez will be really light maybe too light and probably won't have that solid as a rock feel that the other 2 metal bodied reels you talk of have and the zaion just feels too light in some situations.

They'll certainly all be great and will serve you top shelf performance if ya look after them,
just slight difference in the steez construction super lightweight from the other 2 which may play a part on a really long rod.

I'd go a certate and spend $400 on lures.

piketronic · #4 15-02-2015, 11:58 PM

As Mr Jorg said,certate-feels as good as branzi without breaking the bank.But if you wanna some extra bling with certate smoothness and power-branzino can be a good option too.Steez just a funny plastic toy,I doubt it's a good partner for such serious rod.If willing to spent bit more,go for megabass, it's definitely all way better than steez.

Breamingwithjoy · #5 16-02-2015, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by matt jorg

Great rod choice mate! I have the 3012h certate on mine. It's bewdiful!!!
The way I see it is the branzino is the same reel with magseal bearings either side of the handle and a black paint job. Don't get me wrong I'd love one but are they worth double a certate???
The steez will be really light maybe too light and probably won't have that solid as a rock feel that the other 2 metal bodied reels you talk of have and the zaion just feels too light in some situations.

They'll certainly all be great and will serve you top shelf performance if ya look after them,
just slight difference in the steez construction super lightweight from the other 2 which may play a part on a really long rod.

I'd go a certate and spend $400 on lures.

Don't forget the Hyper-digi-gears in the Morethan. I have all 3 types of Morethan and the 3012 feels solid as a house. You can certainly pic them up a fair bit cheaper than the prices you have quoted if you are prepared to look OS. I grabbed the 2510PEH's for bass/perch the 2510R for Jews and the 3012 for the more heavy applications (hopefully tuna in the yak)

Brams · #6 16-02-2015, 12:39 AM

That's exactly what I was expecting to hear, and it was so surprising that the morethan was in the same price range as the steez when I thought it was daiwa's best gear. I love the rod it's a great piece of kit! With the morethan do they have tighter tolerances and a higher build quality than the certate?

Twoshoes, what size tuna were they?

matt jorg · #7 16-02-2015, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Breamingwithjoy

Don't forget the Hyper-digi-gears in the Morethan. I have all 3 types of Morethan and the 3012 feels solid as a house. You can certainly pic them up a fair bit cheaper than the prices you have quoted if you are prepared to look OS. I grabbed the 2510PEH's for bass/perch the 2510R for Jews and the 3012 for the more heavy applications (hopefully tuna in the yak)

Yea true I think you can get the morethan for around $600 straight from jp which makes it a very valid option compared to buying in OZ.

Brams · #8 22-02-2015, 05:57 AM

Hey guys about to buy the morethan - do you reckon it's worth sending in for a service before it gets used to remove any manufacturing chaff and give it a good oil?

piketronic · #9 22-02-2015, 06:06 AM

would not do that.

Breamingwithjoy · #10 22-02-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Brams

Hey guys about to buy the morethan - do you reckon it's worth sending in for a service before it gets used to remove any manufacturing chaff and give it a good oil?

Yeah no.

redfinfisho · #11 22-02-2015, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Breamingwithjoy

Yeah no.

+1 wouldn't send a brand new reel in for a service and waste $70+

Slazmo · #12 22-02-2015, 06:29 PM

You sure about saying 'no' to doing a pre service prior to use?
I do and I would say absolutely for anyone concerned (no scaremongering here either ). The amount of manufacturing swarf even found in a Stella (one i found with the largest piece of swarf to date) is beyond me. Once you wash all the parts down in a solution and then you swish that solution so that it combines all the heavier deposits in the middle; it's jaw dropping how much actually comes out of a "BNIB" reel.

Will have to post up a pic when i have my laptop up next time.

The Doctor · #13 23-02-2015, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Brams

Hey guys about to buy the morethan - do you reckon it's worth sending in for a service before it gets used to remove any manufacturing chaff and give it a good oil?

Please follow one of the procedures listed below:

Do you have OCD? - If yes - Please check your bank account. Do you have $100 in your account? - If yes - Send it in; or

Do you have OCD? - If no - Do not send it in.

Breamingwithjoy · #14 23-02-2015, 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Slazmo

You sure about saying 'no' to doing a pre service prior to use?
I do and I would say absolutely for anyone concerned (no scaremongering here either ). The amount of manufacturing swarf even found in a Stella (one i found with the largest piece of swarf to date) is beyond me. Once you wash all the parts down in a solution and then you swish that solution so that it combines all the heavier deposits in the middle; it's jaw dropping how much actually comes out of a "BNIB" reel.

Will have to post up a pic when i have my laptop up next time.

I know, I have seen what you have pulled out of new reels. But in saying that this is a magesealed (as are all on the list) reel so you can't service that bit yourself fully and I doubt that either sending it in or shooting it in to the local tackle store (remembering this is OS bought) will get you the level of service that you are referring to Slazmo.

I have 4 of the reels in question and all are fine without pulling them apart and giving them the once over before using them.

I fully appreciate that stuff will get by the guys in QA at these factories but am not sure a trip to the service department will necessarily fix that in reality.

Slazmo · #15 23-02-2015, 03:30 AM

I just cant wait to post up these pics for you all to see...

There is a bit of conjecture on the subject of "to do - or not to do". Once parts like the bronze pinion starts to wear that is a irreversable action - and the drive gears starts to wear and then its a hand in hand wear action untill you get that dreaded grindy feel (pictured this also).

Absolutley honestly without missleading anyone for any other gain etc; take the following into consideration.

You buy a car - run it in for 1500km's and what the first thing they do? Dump the oil - anyone peeled apart a engine oil filter after the bedding in stage?

I can see the difference between a reel that is straight out of the box and a reel that has been loaded with line and used for a month or so - mechanical filings wise.

I am staning behind my comments, I will definatly say if you feel this is unnecessary its upto you but those that love mechanics and the persuits of it like myself; I see a little past just using and servicing as such.