slimmest knot for thick leaders

D'n'A · #1 08-10-2012, 06:59 AM

I have been chucking some plastics around for flatties lately with 10lbs leader on the light bream rod and it catches on the guides when i cast. Ive tryed a few knots but all do the same.. So just wondering what sort of knot everyone uses for heavier leaders?

Hazell · #2 08-10-2012, 07:09 AM

I've tried a few knots, double uni's, albrights, etc but they usually have the same issues.

2 things help for me...
1) K guides
2) Shorter leaders or just using a shorter length of 'bite leader' at the end of a normal flouro leader.

But.... I'll be watching the thread because this annoys the hell out of me too.

bargeass · #3 08-10-2012, 07:12 AM

Slim beauty knot is effective, but with a bit of practice an FG knot or sebile knot is even better. Put in the time to learn it and have not looked back since! I just go back to a slim beauty however if I have to retie on the water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xZjRw_BhXU

Hopefully that link works, this taught me to tie it.

stella fella · #4 08-10-2012, 07:12 AM

I've always used a slim beauty. Never had any issues. It sort of buffers the knot more than anything else.

redrocket · #5 08-10-2012, 07:18 AM

Try the kane it knot, very similar to the slim beauty, easy to tie and strong as. I often fish long leaders and have the know on the spool when casting and it never gives me problems.

D'n'A · #6 08-10-2012, 07:35 AM

Hazell- ive been using shorter leaders as well thats the only way i've been able to overcome it at the moment.
cheers guys i think i will give each a test out see what works best.. and bargeass that fg knot looks really good i will try and learn it.

bargeass · #7 08-10-2012, 07:40 AM

It's quite fiddly to start with, but once you have it, its bloody brilliant

Alex · #8 08-10-2012, 08:05 AM

Straight through

Not sure about 10lbs though...Mono maybe? Otherwise the short leader would be the answer.

JIM1 · #9 08-10-2012, 08:26 AM

Improved Albright, trim tag ends well and you won't have a problem

Green Hornet · #10 08-10-2012, 04:05 PM

Until a couple of years ago I always used a double uni.
This knot really "clunked" through the guides and constantly broke with heavier lines and lures.
I swapped over to the slim beauty and have never had a problem since.

riceboy · #11 08-10-2012, 11:23 PM

Try to tie a knot where the leader tag faces towards you. I prefer double uni for a quick knot or if there's a little time, either the PR or FG knot. The PR will require a tool. Both the latter are tied with no knot on the leader side. Just braid woven/wrapped around the leader.

nereus · #12 09-10-2012, 12:10 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yczss...eature=related
cheers nereus

Yardi · #13 09-10-2012, 12:53 AM

Try This one, works for me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp5XW...eature=related

pipnosis · #14 09-10-2012, 01:05 AM

I like the bite leader concept. Maybe a long 6lb fluro leader and then a short heavy leader when focusing on flatties. Im gonna try that.

kamikazeghost · #15 09-10-2012, 09:23 PM

Slim Beauty and the Melville Knot are great knots to create a slim profile.

If tied right, very strong, and don't slip like other knots can over time.

The 5-7 turn surgeons knot is also a really good knot to utilise. It is interlocking and hence slippage is really decreased to a complete minimum. Furthermore, you can tie this blindfolded.

It is good to know a lot of knots, but I would stick to the one's that you really do well and have success on.

Michael