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Old 15-04-2012, 12:34 AM
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Help me catch a bream on a lure PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Hey guys , well i have lately become interested in stalking bream, this is proving to be a challenge for me, ive been fishing at the north end of the hornibrook bridge landbased as im told this is a good spot, im using a 7 foot Tcurve XL 2-4kg rod with a symeter 2500 loaded with 4lb fins and im using 6lb mono as a leader, ive tried various hard bodys and soft plastics , using 1/8 and 1/12 weights , hidden weights also but still have failed every time lol please give me some tips on how to better my chances, best tides and times to catch them ? or if there is another secret spot around redcliffe give me a hoy lol

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Old 15-04-2012, 01:39 AM
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I can't recommend other location to you as I'm not familiar with that area. I can tell you though that lure fishing for bream is a hunting exercise, not a wait for them to come to you exercise, so if your not getting fish in the spot your trying, move on. I usually give a spot about half hour & if I havn't got a fish or at least a few hits, I'll move to a different spot. If heavy snags are not producing for you try finding some flats & see if the fish are there or some deep channels, just different kind of territory. At times even moving a few hundred meters will do the trick for you.

Practice your casting, you need to be very accurate, landing your lure 50cm away from a snag just won't cut it as quite often the bream will just refuse to leave the structure no matter how tempting your offereing may be. Practice until you can land your lure in a standard 10lt bucket from 20m away 9 out of 10 times, then practice some more.

I've noticed that alot of people that struggle to crack thier first bream on a lure are often retrieving too fast. Slow your retrieve down until you can't stand to go any slower & then slow it down some more. When using HB's the retrieve should be only just fast enough to get the lure to wobble so check how fast you need to retrieve each lure in shallow water where you can see the lure working. Long pauses can be key regardless of the lure type. Sometimes you have to pause for so long that it hurts & then pause some more. Vary your retrieve, what works on one day might not work the next. Try a slow roll, slow roll with gentle rod movements, sharp rips with long pauses, sharp rips with short pauses, let the lure float right to the surface then twitch it on the spot then give it a rip, I'm sure you get the picture. Vary that retrieve in as many different ways as you can think of.

Try flourocarbon leader. I never used to be a believer but now that I've switched over I'm getting more fish. Also fish a leader strength that suits the area & conditions your fihsing. In heavy snags or dirty water you might want to go as high as 10 or 12lb leader but in very clear water you might want to go down to 4lb or maybe even 2lb leader. In hard hit areas going down in leader strength might also me needed to fool fish that have seen it all before. Increasing leader length can also turn the trick for you at times.

Most importantly of all, be patient, it can take along time to get your first bream on a lure but once it happens it just gets easier.
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Old 15-04-2012, 02:15 AM
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Hey guys , well i have lately become interested in stalking bream, this is proving to be a challenge for me, ive been fishing at the north end of the hornibrook bridge landbased as im told this is a good spot, im using a 7 foot Tcurve XL 2-4kg rod with a symeter 2500 loaded with 4lb fins and im using 6lb mono as a leader, ive tried various hard bodys and soft plastics , using 1/8 and 1/12 weights , hidden weights also but still have failed every time lol please give me some tips on how to better my chances, best tides and times to catch them ? or if there is another secret spot around redcliffe give me a hoy lol

thanks guys
Jase
6LB Mono or 6LB Fluro? Jump down to 4lb or even 3lb/2lb flurocarbon. that was my big issue when I started chasing bream on lures.
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Old 15-04-2012, 02:18 AM
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6LB Mono or 6LB Fluro? Jump down to 4lb or even 3lb/2lb flurocarbon. that was my big issue when I started chasing bream on lures.
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Old 15-04-2012, 02:52 AM
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Definitely get some fluorocarbon,are you casting in close to structure?,and get some lighter jigheads too possibly as well as some small vibes if you dont have some already,you will get one soon enough,they certainly can surprise you lol
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Old 15-04-2012, 04:12 AM
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Some great advice there Graeme, hard to add much more to that!
From what I have learnt over my short life of bream fishing (I am no expert), breaming is all about patience, and I know we've all heard a thousand times, though the fact is the more hours you spend on the water, the more chance you'll have of catching that big fish!
Here are a 3 guidelines that, if considered, will increase your chances:

Structure - bream love structure; weather it be moored boats, bridge pylons, weed beds, mangrove roots, oyster leases or any other form of natural or man made structure. Fish use these places to shelter themselves from lurking predators. Often bream will not feel comfortable venturing to far out of their home therefore making it vital that you get you cast up tight to the target, as Graeme said.

Time - from my understanding time is the greatest factor influencing the feeding habits of fish. The time of day and the phase of the tide are the two things that I look at before heading out onto the water. Dawn and dusk are my favourite times to fish, probably because this is the time fish a most active.
The run out tide sees the bigger bream lurking on the edge of drop offs waiting for the smaller fish to be forced out of their homes. Cranking a lure along a rock wall during the 2nd half of the run out is a favourite technique of mine.
The run in tide sees the water being pushed back into the structure and over the sand flats. Surface fishing over shallow flats can be great fun during the 2nd half of the run in. Generally the best times to fish are at dawn or dusk within two hours of a tide change, though that doesn't mean you can't catch fish at other times.

Technique - One of the biggest questions in a breamers mind is: what technique? As you would know there are thousands of lures on the market, each of which can be used in different ways. A general rule for bream is to fish slowly with long pauses in between; as Graeme said you can never retrieve your lure to slow for bream. My three favourite types of bream lures are: plastics, crankbaits and surface lures.
For plastics it is important to vary your retrieve, to start off try a slow lift of your rod, 2 cranks of your reel, then a 5 second pause. If thats not working then give you rod 2-3 sharp jerks, crank twice, then give a 3 second pause. Try downgrading your jigheads to a lighter weight, somewhere between 1/16 and 1/40 depending on the conditions. Some of my favourite plastics to use are gulp shrimps, damiki monster mikis and squidgy wrigglers.

Crankbaits are in my opinion the simplest lure to use. Often all that is needed is a slow steady retrieve and your automatically giving yourself a great chance of catching a fish. If the bream aren't reacting then try adding a pause of 3-6 seconds, maybe even longer. Crankbaits are great around bridges and moored boats. If I could use only one lure then it would be the Atomic Crank 38 in ghost gill brown (I'm not sponsored). Other cranks to consider are the Cranka Crank, Jackall Chubby and Smith Camion.

Surface lures are great fun when the fishing is hot; once you get your fish on a surface lure you'll be hooked for life. There are two main types of surface lures: poppers and walkers, my favourite being the later. Generally poppers will be more effective in rougher conditions and walkers will be better in smoother, more glassy water. IMO the most effective retrieve for a popper is three downwards jerks of the rod with a long pause in between. Walkers involve short continuous twitches of the rod which gets the lure moving side to side. Three surface lures to have in your box are Sammy 65's, Zipbaits Tiny Poppers and Bassday Sugapens.

To sum it up in one sentence I would say: To give yourself the best chance of catching a bream fish around structure in low light two hours either side of a tide change with a small lure and a slow retrieve.

A word of warning: when you catch your first bream on a lure there is no turning back, you will join the rest of us on here in a costly yet gratifying addiction.
Hope I have helped
Oli
P.S. let us know when you get your fish!
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Old 15-04-2012, 04:30 AM
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Thanks heaps guys, that is all great info for me
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Old 15-04-2012, 04:54 AM
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Can't cover more than what has already been covered other than to say that next time you go out for a fish tell yourself that this is the day you will catch that first bream on a lure, its a confidence game Don't swap and change lures to much when your first starting out, it is very easy to get caught up in the whole lure craze without becoming proficiant at catching bream on one or two types of lures first. Have faith that the lures you are using work and just fish hard, it will happen and then you will never look back, although a bit of advice i wish i was given when i first started out is make sure you remember that technique that you were using to catch the first fish because it is this that you will build on over time. Best of luck, don't give up, took me ages to get my first quite a few years ago now but i have not looked back since Great advice fellas.
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Old 15-04-2012, 04:58 AM
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i started off using gulb baby shrimp but the toad fish kept biting off the tails so i tried a squidgy bug, then a atomic crank , then a blade lol no luck
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Old 15-04-2012, 05:04 AM
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i started off using gulb baby shrimp but the toad fish kept biting off the tails so i tried a squidgy bug, then a atomic crank , then a blade lol no luck
If i were you i would be sticking with the Atomic Crank for a while until you feel confident using it. They are great hards mate and they do catch a lot of Bream. Guess it depends on the areas you are fishing if deeper go Plastic or vibe. General rule dark colours for dirty water and natural/clear colours for clear water.
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Old 15-04-2012, 05:10 AM
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yeah this is the colour ive been using
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Old 15-04-2012, 05:10 AM
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hi mate around that area i have had better luck with cranks mainly deep, in particular Atomic crank 38 deep in ggb,Ecogear CX35 in 525

hope it helps mate

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Old 15-04-2012, 05:20 AM
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Yeah not a bad colour. They will all work on their day. My favs at the moment are Muddy Prawn and Ghost Brown.
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Old 15-04-2012, 05:26 AM
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also another standout is cranka cranks and in no particular colours,have had success on most of the colours

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Old 15-04-2012, 06:08 AM
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I went out for my first bream on a hardbody lure last Tuesday. Wat the other guys have said is true, time on the water is crucial for your first one. I chopped and changed lures for about 4 hours without a hit from a bream. I was too anxious to get that first bream, I was retrieving too fast. After a 4 hours I was sick of changing lures, so I stuck to my sx40. Waiting to be picked up after a failure of a session, I was just flicking my sx40 near my pick up point. If you can imagine a "sulk" cast ( really slow without any rod movement) that was what I was doing. By surprise a hooked a undersized bream (by 3cm). Despite being small I'm on the board. Goes to show that a really slow retrieve does work! Let us know when you get your first. It's exciting!
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