Knot for Braid to Light Leaders

[chanlo]

I've been using a double uni for about 2 years now and i've had a few bust offs lately on fish lunges with light leaders. I mainly use 6lb braid and 3-6lb fluro leader.
Whats a strong alternative knot I could use?

[Nick_J]

How many wraps are you using with the braid, and with the leader. Also, is your leader or mainline breaking, or is the knot failing?

[chanlo]

I usually wrap 8 times both braid and fluro
I'm assumed the knot is failing but now i think about it the leader may be failing cause the knot is usually still there when i real it in.
I'm using a sienna 1000 reel (I have 2 of them)

I hooked a salmon fishing for bream on sunday and after 2 jumps is broke my 3lb leader at the knot, even after i had loosened the drag off considerably. After this incident im thinking of changing.

[chris268]

Improved Albright. Slimmer profile than a double uni and very strong

[Nick_J]

If your knot is still there after the bust-off, its not your leader thats the problem. Its not hard for a jumping sambo to bust 3Lb leader.

[Tasbasser]

Try using alot less turns on the mono/flouro leader end....I use 2 at times...yes it holds as well or better than 5 or 6. Normally use 3 turns but have slowly worked back form 6 or 7 in the old days.....No more clanging of knots on your guides etc...Each braid and leader set up has its own recipe for me but with standard for 4/3lb fireline and say 3/4lb Yamatoyo Spinning floro learder.....I use a 9 and 3 turn knot. Also vibrate the knot inot place by twanging the line with my thumb when closing the knot......this is probably a big waste of time but my knots never fail....so I'll keep doin it.....

PT

[pyrorico]

I was having the same problem, I switched to a "5 turn surgeon knot" and have not had the problem since..

and it's easier and faster to tie...

[pyrorico]

this is it here...

http://youtu.be/99Wtb7X5V6s

[Piscateur]

I have tried the following knots, Slim Beauty, albright, triple surgeons, quadrouple surgeons, and the double uni. if the knot is hitting your runners as you cast all knots will weaken over time. I have stuck with the slim beauty as I find it last the longest. But I would retie after two hours of solid casting or at the least tug the knot to check.
Do a search plenty of advice on knots on this forum

[Stealth]

I'll try explain the knot use, not 100% what it's called "improved Albright?" but 95 percent of the time breaks at lure.

1- fold about 5cm leader back on itself, pinch leader so it has a slight crease were it bends back.
2- insert braid from top though folded back leader, wrap up doubled leader ( from folding it in first step) I do four wraps up, then four wraps back down
3- after wrapping up then back down insert tag end so that it exits the same way then braid came in the doubled leader section.
4- important part, lube knot, then holding all tags and lines slowly start to tighten knot, until it starts to form but not all the way.
5- let go off both tags braid tag and flouro and tighten fully ( if it grips it worked if not start again) Also if you don't let go of tags and tighten knot it will be no where near as strong.
6- trim tags as close as you can, Done.
Hard to explain but very strong knot and quick to tie once done a few times

[Tom156]

Even remove a length of the braid if its failing to often and your sure your knots are fine. The braid could be damaged and weakened.

[TheChief]

I use a 6 turn Albright knot. Usually 5-6 turn up and 4-5 turns back. Hasn't failed me yet. If I snag up it always breaks at the loop knot on the lure first.

Always test your knots really well before cutting off the tags. Even after doing that it doesn't hurt to rig up a test them in the backyard first! If it saves a $25 lure its worth doing!

What leader are you using? I would recommend using the higher quality leaders. I use Unitika Silver Thread FC in 3,4 and 6lb. Best leader ever.

[chanlo]

I have been using a variety of leaders but a rovex fluro and berkley tournament grade or something like that its called have been the two main ones. Was using Platyl 4lb braid, but i hate it and gunna change soon. Ebay braid from china is better than the platyl.

[TheChief]

I'm a huge fan of 3-4lb Stren Microfuse and Unitika FC.

I would recommend going up to a higher quality leader. You will notice the difference in diameter, abrasion resistance and knot strength and you will never go back. I replace my leaders every time I go fishing to. Probly unnecessary a lot of the time but I do it any way.

[chanlo]

I use 3 rods most times and I think changing leaders everytime might get expensive and time consuming. Usually i like to "grab and go" cause I have so much other things going on.