pflueger abu or shakspear

[danh124]

What is the best bream real at about 1000 or 2000 size out of these three brands?
and any idea how much?

[Nic c]

http://www.pfluegerfishing.com/produ...ducts.php?p=44

saw these today @ anaconda, really realy nice reel, the 2500 in pflugers is around the size of around a 1000 in shimano's and daiwa's and only weighs 159 grams and the 3000 they didnt have so couldnt see it but i'd imagine its the size of a 2000 or 2500 in shimano or daiwa and weighs 178grams. price of these were $279 but @ 30% they were something like $195.
cheers
Nic

[Willfish]

Bought a Pfleuger Supreme 2000 XT about 12 months ago just out of curiousity. I am a dedicated Diawa man and had an older model Supreme in the past but loved the look of this little dynamo the Supreme XT. Its performance matches its looked. Very under rated reel, and well worth a look. For more info have a look at this site http://www.purefishing.com.au/berkle...s-reviewed-by/. Cheers

[danh124]

Originally Posted by Willfish

Bought a Pfleuger Supreme 2000 XT about 12 months ago just out of curiousity. I am a dedicated Diawa man and had an older model Supreme in the past but loved the look of this little dynamo the Supreme XT. Its performance matches its looked. Very under rated reel, and well worth a look. For more info have a look at this site http://www.purefishing.com.au/berkle...s-reviewed-by/. Cheers

how does it compare in size to the diawa 2000 say a sol or luvius?

[vaporboy]

you'd be well betta off wit a shimano or mayb dawia but if ur convinced on these brands then pay the good money cos on these brands cheap reels r, well cheap lol

[Chamelion]

Originally Posted by vaporboy

you'd be well betta off wit a shimano or mayb dawia but if ur convinced on these brands then pay the good money cos on these brands cheap reels r, well cheap lol

The Patriarch is the top of their line, not a cheap one. That said, my mate has an older model pflueger president which cost him $65. If it wasn't so heavy I would rate it not too far down from my Steez. Extremely smooth on the wind, good drag.
That said, I owned two Supremes and they were both rubbish.

Your post borders on insulting to anyone who has even half a grasp on the English language.

[Nugget]

If you are looking for a real for under 100$, i highly recommend the " penn sargus 2000 ". I have had mine for 6 months or so now, hasn't had a serviced just washed after each use, It seems perfect still no corrosion drag is still as good as the day i got it.

http://www.jarviswalker.com.au/catal...ing-reels.html

[danh124]

Originally Posted by Nugget

If you are looking for a real for under 100$, i highly recommend the " penn sargus 2000 ". I have had mine for 6 months or so now, hasn't had a serviced just washed after each use, It seems perfect still no corrosion drag is still as good as the day i got it.

http://www.jarviswalker.com.au/catal...ing-reels.html

Thanks, but im not necesaaraly looking for a cheap reel im looking for a good reel.
I just may have a way of getting some of these brands at a good price through a friend of mine.
So basicaly im trying to find out if any of these reels are on par with a TD Sol or somthing like that because im planning on buying 4 or 5 to set up for the tournies when i get my boat.
That pflueger supreme XTS looks the goods it's specs read like a luvius.

[danh124]

Originally Posted by Chamelion

The Patriarch is the top of their line, not a cheap one. That said, my mate has an older model pflueger president which cost him $65. If it wasn't so heavy I would rate it not too far down from my Steez. Extremely smooth on the wind, good drag.
That said, I owned two Supremes and they were both rubbish.

Your post borders on insulting to anyone who has even half a grasp on the English language.

all the more confusing......

[danh124]

Originally Posted by vaporboy

you'd be well betta off wit a shimano or mayb dawia but if ur convinced on these brands then pay the good money cos on these brands cheap reels r, well cheap lol

your profile say's your 14 so perhaps be a little more carefull when handing out advice as flippantly as that or should i say

yo was up u iz only 14 booooooyi

[Chamelion]

Originally Posted by danh124

all the more confusing......

My post confused you?

[danh124]

Originally Posted by Chamelion

My post confused you?

Only that you said the supreames were rubbish i was thinking they looked good and now my decision is more confusing, sorry mate.

Were the supremes you had the XTS spec jap looking things?
Why were they rubbish?

[Chamelion]

I had a Supreme MG and a Supreme XT

Asides from different looks they're all more or less the same with only very minor changes.

MG - 9/1 bearings, Magnesium body and rotor, alu spool, thin bail wire (though strong enough), oiled felt drag washers, alu handle arm, plastic knob.

XT gets you - 9/1 bearings, magnesium body and rotor, alu spool, thicker hollow bail wire, carbon fibre drag washers, alu handle arm, plastic knob.

XTS gets you - 9/1 bearings, magnesium body and rotor, alu spool, thicker hollow bail wire, carbon fibre drag washers, carbon handle arm, EVA knob.

Internally (gears, bearings etc) they're all identical, which is important to know before I share my experience with the supreme line of reels.

My first supreme, an XT, was awful from the outset. It had a bad grind on the wind and no amount of playing around with spacers helped. So I returned it and got another.
The second one, also an XT, was OK to start aside from a bit of play in the handle. After a couple of months it all went to hell, from memory the line roller was noisy, it was starting to feel harder to wind and a little grindy. I tried servicing it to no avail. Internally it looked fine...
The third one was the MG. Felt excellent to start with but before long started exhibiting the same symptoms as the second XT.

So, that said, I can't recommend the Supreme series of Pflueger reels... I'll try a Patriarch sometime in the future, hopefully it's a long ways better.

If you want a no nonsense pflueger that you can kick around, drop, throw, splash and generally beat the hell out of it and know that it will keep on running, grab a pflueger medalist 6030. My 6035 and 6040 just won't die.

[Nugget]

Originally Posted by danh124

Thanks, but im not necesaaraly looking for a cheap reel im looking for a good reel.
I just may have a way of getting some of these brands at a good price through a friend of mine.
So basicaly im trying to find out if any of these reels are on par with a TD Sol or somthing like that because im planning on buying 4 or 5 to set up for the tournies when i get my boat.
That pflueger supreme XTS looks the goods it's specs read like a luvius.

oh i must of had the names mixed up haha sorry my bad and lack of sleep :P. I blame the lack of salad over the weekend :P

[TheChief]

Pflueger Patriarch or Abu revo.