wat to get. yammie,murc,tohatsu......

NathanJohns · #1 27-07-2007, 06:17 AM

im geting a new boat soon and want to put a 40hp four stroke on it but still unsure on wat i want.
i need it fuel efficiant,reliable and powerfull.
i have been looking at the murcury bigfoot and yammie 4 strokes but am leading to the murc.
also i was thinking of a good 2 stroke like the tohatsu tldi or etec.
i herd those tohatsu are great but lack a bit of grunt

coastie · #2 27-07-2007, 06:40 AM

Go the etec. Ihave a 60 hp etec and love it, no fumes, efficient, low maintenance low noise, 4 strokes are good, but more moving parts equals more cost ie.
timing belts etc.

Cheers Coastie

P.s there is such a great feeling buying new grunt.
happy shopping.

Simmsy · #3 28-07-2007, 03:48 AM

I would definately go the Honda!!
I have had 3 over the past 4 years, a 20hp, 25hp and currently running with a 50hp. All have been perfect, they are light, quiet, very economical on fuel. I couldn't see any reason to look anywhere but Honda.

Definately worth looking at imo!

Simmsy..

crabcrusher · #4 28-07-2007, 04:07 AM

Honda me up to .. We currently have a Honda 40 and defiantly cant complain. They do lack the get up and go of a two stroke , but for fuel efficiency, they are miles in front.

As Simmsy said, they are ultra quiet. Plus you will be doing the enviro a favour.
Cheers Nick

NathanJohns · #5 28-07-2007, 05:22 AM

yer i was thinking a honda but do they have alot of grunt?
i am going in tournies so i need it to be sorta fast even if it is a 40.
but i go and wakeskate mith my mates so i needed the extra power.
i know the etec can do that but im only 16 and i need to save as much as i can.
mum and dad are putting money in and i will hav about 10,000 to spent early next year so its time to start looking.
i still need a leccy and sounder on a boat.
hopefully i can find 1 second hand to my liking

BoofHed · #6 28-07-2007, 07:14 PM

i Just went through all that and the i bought a Marrinner, Merc 40 4 Stroker because thats was the only fuel injected motor at the time and it is a great motor and u forget it is still running as it is that quiet.
Bruce

Timmah · #7 28-07-2007, 10:09 PM

Hey breamcrazy,

I would probably go a 2stroke. Few reasons one there lighter, cheaper to service, plenty of power and they are also cheaper than most four strokes.

Cheers
Tim

NathanJohns · #8 29-07-2007, 02:55 AM

i have a 2 stroke now.
but a 4 stroke are more reliable, quiet , heps better on fuel which will be cheaper in the long run.
i would really like to get a boat/motor 2nd hand with all the hard work already done for me

Simmsy · #9 29-07-2007, 06:49 AM

Don't go thinking that 4 strokes are just big heavy lunkers!!

have a look at the specs first!

Evinrude 40hp = 104kg dry weight, long shaft
http://www.brp.com/en/Products/Evinr...oductID=ETEC40

Honda 40hp = 93kg dry weight, long shaft
http://www.hondampe.com.au/wps/wcm/c...pecifications/

Even the basic CV Yammies (40VWHTOL) are the same weight as the Honda but then don't have the same amount of CC, over 100cc less infact!
http://www.yamaha-motor.com.au/marin...htm?marine.asp

11kg's in small tubs is alot, just something for you to think about!

Simmsy.

NathanJohns · #10 29-07-2007, 06:40 PM

nar i want a 4 stroke or a good 2 stroke like an etec but they cost a bit.
i now have to look at a honda as well now! they look pritty good.
i think most motors these days are pritty hard to go wrong by.

Rod · #11 30-07-2007, 12:43 AM

I just love it when people start throwing weights, and figure around to prove there point

All Mercury 4 strokes are made by Yamaha...

Don't forget to look into the Suzuki market also. They make some very good motors. Honestly the ETec market is also making BIG head roads so they shouldn't be left out of the economy/environmental argument.

Also Yamaha currently hold approx 40 % of Australia new motor market..Compared to that of Honda which sit on approx 8 %

Hows that for a statistic..

Simmsy · #12 30-07-2007, 12:56 AM

Wasn't trying to prove anything Rod, Just putting up a few links to let the people go to three different brands, just trying to let people know that they need to look at all options and stop listening to the myths that are always put out there. Just like the ones a few months ago posted on here about etec being big smokers! It's just crap.
At the end of the day most people have their favourite outboards, I have had 3 Hondas and 1 Yammie and have been happy with all of them but for me the Honda is well and truly the best value for money.

These days I would say all of the top line outboard manufacturers are producing good quality products and for the "buyer to be it" is important that they look at all available options.

jmo.

Simmsy..

NathanJohns · #13 30-07-2007, 07:40 PM

no i appreciate the links you put up simmsy.
yamies seem to have a bit of a corrosion problem oh well i still have 2 months untill the boat arrives so got plenty of time

Doc_Hollywood · #14 30-07-2007, 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Simmsy
At the end of the day most people have their favourite outboards, I have had 3 Hondas and 1 Yammie and have been happy with all of them but for me the Honda is well and truly the best value for money.

Simmsy..

I think that quote sort of sums it up simmsy, except i also have had the Hondas and loved them but now think my Yammie is the better value, and for a 2 stroke its way quiet (until you open it up

). And if you can believe some of the tech data the newer high pressure direct injection 2 stroke are getting as good if not better fuel economy than some of the 4 bangers now.
Technology and marketing is a wonderful tool.
But like you said its all about personal preference otherwise we would all drive the same boat with the same motor in the same colour towed by the same car, because you would only buy the best ...wouldnt you?.

Shane · #15 30-07-2007, 08:37 PM

Too true Leon. But then if we where all in boats like yours how would DPI catch us all?

In a low end motor I would go a 2 stroke for maximum grunt. I always liked the sound of the E-Tecs, no break in period and 1st service is at 300 hours. Plus the 40/50/60hp are all the same motor

40-50 computer throtled 50-60 comp throtled + different exhaust system. So you could tell people you had a 40 but really have at 60

I have a Honda at the moment, only been out on it once for a test drive (stupid weather) but the new V-Tec models defintely give the 4 stroke a bit of grunt. Previous to this I had an old Johno 2st and that just kept on going.