Whats the difference between braid and mono line?

[Golden Monk]

Whats the difference between braid and mono line?.


Man I thought I was a fisherman until I came to these boards.

Thanks

[Shane]

Briad does not stretch and is thinner, better bite detection and casting distance due to being lighter, compared to it's mono counter parts. Mono has better abrasion resistance hence using a leader on your briad.

Someone will confirm this, I aint a breamin guru

[swoffa]

mono is a sigle strand, while braid is multiple strands.

there's also fused line...

Yea you will find that most ppl on this board use Fireline which is a Gel Spun Line, otherwise known as GSP or fused line but is often confused as a braid. If you do a search on the forums about this you will find endless explanations on GSP from ppl more knowledgeable than myself on this subject.

[CHUNQX]

Ok.. I've been using braid and the fused braid for a while now and I love it. I used to use mono and for surf fishing and other long casting applications I still use mono not because its not suitable but because of the costs.
For breaming its best to used fused braid like Fireline. I would rate Fireline as the best in its class. There are other brands around but you'd be best to stick to Fireline.
Braided line is made from multiple strands and feels like thread but heck stronger. As such it is very limp and doesn't straighten and like I said like thread. Because of that it makes a poor leader. The advantages are it does not stretch at all. In deep sea fishing situation where you've got a drop of 50 meters or more and you're bottom fishing with a big sinker, you'll feel every touch, bump and bite. In mono, because of the stretch, you lose a lot of sensitivity if a lot of line is out. But braid, you'll feel everything.
Because it is so limp, the braid line tends to wrap itself around the tip guide and it can be frustrating. If you're using long cast overhead reels, it can be really frustrating to undo a bird's nest. That's why I don't use braid for surf casting.
To counter that limpness, they've come up with fused braid which means the braid is heat fused to appear like 1 single strand. It maintains its zero stretch but exhibits some of the more desirable properties of mono line. i forgot to mention that both braid and fused braid are way thinner in diameter for their poundage which is good for casting distance.
Another advantage is that the new lines have no memory meaning if it twists or kinks or bird's nests, when you undo it, give it a tension pull and it'll straighten whereas with mono, you can get "memory" as the line shows sign of the kink. Like crease on paper...
It is generally recommended that you use fused line for spinning reels and braid for baitcasting or overhead reels.
For breaming, its best to use 4lb (6lb max) Fireline in Fluoro green. It'll break way above the 4lb mark and you'll have the sensitivity you never realised possible before.

[kamikazeghost]

For sportsfishing, I'm always using braid (fireline). It's thinner in diameter, bite detection is better, casts are longer, weight to diameter is better and no stretch. however, for beach fishing, I'm always using monoline, cause you needs some give, because of the different type of rod you use as well as you don't cut your fingers as easily as you would with braid. The other thing is that braid can have a tendency to create more tangles than mono, so that's a reason for using braid and mono in different types of fishing.

Actually Fireline is not a braided line, but is a Fused bundled line, using Gel Spun Polyethylene yarns. True braids are made from anything up to 8 carriers, bundles of fibres, at 8 piks, which is the weave factor.
GsP fibres are either Dyneema, made in Japan by Toyobo Co, or Spectra made in the USA by AlliedSignal. Spectra braids are braided in the USA only, while Dyneema braids are braided elswhere in the world, like Aust by Australian Monofil Lid. Aka Platypus.
Harro's Bionic Braid is put together by Aust Monofil from Dyneema.
Basically there is no difference between Dyneema or Sprectra fibres, since both Toyobo and AlliedSignal make the syuff under license from the inventors DSM HPF in Holland. If there are differences in lines it is related to the weave format rather than the yarns.
Fireline is fused which is a Berkley patented treatment. Actually fused lines have lower abrasion resistance than round true braids, but usually are a bit higher in B/S than is printed on the spool.
The GsP yarns are produced by thinning High Molecular Weight Polyethylene with a solvent and extruding it through a spinnerette, which is a metal block full of very minute holes. The end result are fibres with high b/s and low stretch which are then braided into fishing lines.
Its all very confusing, but it has some problems, low knot strength, due to high modulus of elasticity, of the yarn, and stiffness which gives it a high critical radius. In other words its stiff and if bent radically it will break. It has about 3% stretch and is slippery, floats and is verty thin. Abrasion resistance is related to breaking strain with is related to diameter.
But it makes fair fishing lines. Max

[cody]

geez max, where'd u find all that info?

[CHUNQX]

I didn't know they gave out post-grad degrees for that! Sounds like you did a thesis on it or something...

[fishuman]

If you guys don't know who max is , what rock have you been fishin' under , this is THE man they named GARTHS rock after up cuvier , just past carnarvon , he IS the god of salt water flyfishing.
( and knows a hell of a lot about fishing)

[cody]

yes fishuman

[fishuman]

Originally posted by cody
yes fishuman

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