what rods do you prefer?

Bream Ville · #1 13-02-2014, 12:56 AM

Hi guys since just starting out in the hb scene I have heard softer rods are better for hb but I am using a soft rod and stiff rod for them
I want to know what your preference is and why?
Cheers

stella fella · #2 13-02-2014, 01:21 AM

Yeah people tend to say that soft, or slow tapered rods are better for fishing hardbodies because you're less likely to pull hooks when fighting/hooking fish, but honestly I just prefer a crisp med-fast tapered rod for just about everything. I've dropped more fish on hards using a megabass saratoga, which has a very slow taper, than I have fishing cranks on my old 2-4kg pflueger supreme, which is a very fast tapered broom stick.

Bream Ville · #3 13-02-2014, 01:25 AM

Stella from my learning u don't strike anyway then it's up to the drag.

stella fella · #4 13-02-2014, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bream Ville

Stella from my learning u don't strike anyway then it's up to the drag.

when you're fishing for bream using hardbodies, yes

The Doctor · #5 13-02-2014, 03:12 AM

Based on your location, I assume you are primarily targeting bream on HB?

First of all, I have to say I am no bream fisherman despite the fact that I do target them occasionally during the cool dry season here in the NT. Therefore my suggestion might not be as valid as the ones given by the experience bream anglers on this forum.

However, having said that, I do fish a varieties of styles - from the 6' UL spinning in the jungle creek to 10' H shorecasting from the breakwall. Needless to say, I have experimented with a lot of outfits. I have found myself accustom to rods with a regular to regular fast taper when it comes to medium and fast moving lure, be it a hard bodied sinking pencil or a soft plastic jerkbait. Generally speaking, rods with regular to regular fast taper tend to be more versatile (i.e. less technique and lure style specific).

In essence, fishing rods' taper designs are to accommodate the fisherman's fishing style and enhance the lure performance. There is no use if you as the fisherman is not comfortable with the rod and its taper. That is why I suggest to start with a rod suitable for the lures you are going to use with a regular to regular fast taper (keep in mind different manufacturer have slightly different interpretations). Once and if, you have developed a specific style or grew fond of a particular type of lure, then maybe invest in a more technical specific rod to maximise the effectiveness.

The bottom line is you have to feel comfortable with it.

Green Hornet · #6 13-02-2014, 03:40 AM

These days I prefer a rod with a faster taper. Especially since changing to fluorocarbon straight through. There's enough stretch in the line to stop those tiny trebles pulling out.

bamm · #7 13-02-2014, 05:08 AM

Samurai reactions

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Daiwa black labels

Bream Ville · #8 13-02-2014, 05:14 AM

Bamm. Gen blacks?

Alex · #9 13-02-2014, 06:48 AM

Samurai 201 is a great all rounder suitable for both hb and sp

The G factor · #10 13-02-2014, 04:25 PM

i prefer fast/ xfast rods for everything,I prefer having that contact with the lure and not having that sloppy feeling associated with many slow rods. Plus it also means I can use the rod for other applications without needing a new rod. I also rarely use HB's for bream, so you shouldn't listen to me haha

jackdawg · #11 13-02-2014, 04:46 PM

Dont fish for bream much, but when I do I prefer a 102 kg rod. with the bit of extra slop, I think it gives me a lot more casting distance with lighter lures.

Nix88 · #12 13-02-2014, 05:01 PM

T curves tiaryo nano g loomis and some of the daiwa rods

joelozzy · #13 13-02-2014, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The G factor

i prefer fast/ xfast rods for everything,I prefer having that contact with the lure and not having that sloppy feeling associated with many slow rods. Plus it also means I can use the rod for other applications without needing a new rod. I also rarely use HB's for bream, so you shouldn't listen to me haha

+1

TSR 862-2 GLX Best off the shelf bream all rounder I reckon.

Samurai 201's are awesome aswell.

Piscateur · #14 13-02-2014, 05:44 PM

There is often confusion with tapers and stiffness. A fast taper rod doesn't necessarily mean its stiff or crisp. Neither does a slow taper mean that is sloppy. You can get sloppy fast tapered rods likewise a crisp and even stiff slow taper rods. My preference for an allrounder and HB rod is a slow tapered not too stiff but very crisp one. And for Placcy and blades a slightly stiffer version of that.
For me its crispness that is the key.

Yak_Hak · #15 13-02-2014, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Piscateur

There is often confusion with tapers and stiffness. A fast taper rod doesn't necessarily mean its stiff or crisp. Neither does a slow taper mean that is sloppy. You can get sloppy fast tapered rods likewise a crisp and even stiff slow taper rods. My preference for an allrounder and HB rod is a slow tapered not too stiff but very crisp one. And for Placcy and blades a slightly stiffer version of that.
For me its crispness that is the key.

Thanks for that explanation mate - this whole taper thing has had me confused for ages! I have two rods one of which is described as ultra fast taper and the other described as fast taper. But the ultra fast taper (lox yoshi) is much softer than the fast taper (Gen Black)! This always confused me - I suppose because I thought taper was correlated to stiffness.

For the record I find the Gen Black (stiffer) to be a great plastics rod and the Lox (softer) a great hardbody/surface rod.