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Old 21-09-2003, 06:19 AM
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Help needed- trying to break the duck

Hi All

As a direct result of finding and joing this site I have changed my whole fishing style. I was a surf jewfish fanatic ie heavy gear and late nights.

I have now moved to spinning for bream. I use both HBs and SPs and have been shore based in sydney harbour.

I have gone down to 4lb fireline with 6lb monon leader. I was using 6lb mono allover untill I purchased the fireline from Breamaster online.

I retrieve slow I think. (I will post another question on this). I fish around structure. I change lures attacks, atomics squidgies and colours. I try different times, tides and places. I keep trying all the things I read here.

Still no bream (and no other fish) on lures-hb or sp. Yes I leave the bait at home!

What else can I try to help me break the duck??


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Old 21-09-2003, 07:30 AM
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Mate,
One of the best things you can do is get out with a few of the guys from the site. We actually run Breamers days over here where those with boats donate their time and money to take out a few guys who don't have their own and give them a taste of what it's like.

It's always a great way to see how other guys fish and see what the difference is to what you do. I'm sure a post up on the Tavern will draw a few guys out. Give it a go.
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Old 21-09-2003, 09:09 AM
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I know how you feel. I have been fishing s/p and h/b now for around 6-8 month and have not got one single bream (It's really pathetic).
your not alone out there and dont worry one day you will hit it big time and you will make up for all the Bream you never got before. I dream of this day allot

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Old 21-09-2003, 09:31 AM
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Nathan

You and I will continue to dream yep one day we will crack it.

We must keep trying to learn from all here. We need help to make the day come sooner.

Here hoping someone will tell up something we hadnot heard before. It may be the piece of the puzzle we are looking for!!

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Old 21-09-2003, 09:45 AM
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dont worry im in the same boat well i would like to be in a boat but any way yeh i only just got my first trout and i havnt got a bream yet. Like Bear said we need to meet up with some one that knows what there doin that way we could see what were doin rong. Nath18 we should try to orgenise a bit of a session for the victorian folk around melbourne meet up with some of the guys off the net and have a fish and learn a bit from them???????????
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Old 21-09-2003, 10:39 AM
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Howdy fellas, lemme join in!

Well, i'v got ONE but that didnt really count, it just took it on the drop and I didnt really do anything.

SO yeh...wait aruond 7 weeks and then we can all go out and dreaaam together
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Old 21-09-2003, 11:47 AM
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Torvic, dont run that down man. You'd be surprised how many bream on softies are taken on the drop and to my way of thinking, "doing nothing" is a valid softie technique.
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Old 21-09-2003, 11:50 AM
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Doin nothin is my favourite technique...and i aint just talkin breamin!
Torvic, the majority of my fish are taken on the drop! Dont discount it, its a valid technique!

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Old 21-09-2003, 04:03 PM
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Sydney harbour is very quiet

Heya fingerling.
Don't lose heart! We fish the harbour with very little success of late. It's important to remember that all these "show ponies" on site are getting southern black bream.
Sydney mainly holds yellowfin bream, which are notoriously slow in winter. Up until middle october try the very back creeks and tributaries like lane cove,parra river, davidson park. or flick some lures at the beach.
Wait till summer. Our day will come when you will be beating the fish off with a sh#tty stick.
Where are you focussing on?
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Old 22-09-2003, 06:00 AM
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Hi wingala

Thanks for your comments. I have tried around Blues Point, McMahons Point, and Milsons Point. On the other side I have tried the Rose bay area flats and wharf.

Most disappointing was at Milsons Point where some guys using bait and heavy gear got a couple of nice bream right next to me!!!


Do you have any recommendations for spots. I am land based.


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Old 22-09-2003, 06:14 AM
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Hi wingala

Thanks for your comments. I have tried around Blues Point, McMahons Point, and Milsons Point. On the other side I have tried the Rose bay area flats and wharf.

Most disappointing was at Milsons Point where some guys using bait and heavy gear got a couple of nice bream right next to me!!!


Do you have any recommendations for spots. I am land based.


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G'day Struggler,

Im new to the soft plastics as well, and if you want a place to learn the craft and land a couple of fish, try the Parra River around Five Dock. I've popped out during lunch with a couple of mates for an hour or so three times trying the squidgies and the tally so far is 5 flathead, 1 nice bream and a monster whiting. Fish the runup to high tide and you should get results with squidgy bloodworm, and attack brown trout. Lots of weed beds and very accessible for land based, park the car right there and walk the wall spinning from the Apia club around the bay. One of the guys trolls a couple of Attacks early morning out the back of his Kayak and does well in the Bream stakes around the deeper parts near the carpark.
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Old 22-09-2003, 06:28 AM
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Hi guys,
I found that when i started fishing with softplastics i didnt know where or how to fish with the plastics.Its all try and error in my books.But as was said before try and hook up with guys who fish with plastics alot.I found that Iron cove around near the rowing club was a great starting point for me, espescially for me as im always land based. even under the bridges there are great for bream and flatties.
If you want some help email me anytime and if ive got the day free id be more than happy to show you some nice spots .
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Old 22-09-2003, 07:03 AM
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spot on the money

Milson's Point is a noisy old spot. The other fellas were spot on. Head further up river and there are many. If the parra river is to far then try Greenwich Hunters Hill. We toddle down the tonnes of reserves 3 hours before high and flick at the pontoons and wharves( in quiet bays) you can see them holding up in the shady spots. Watch for the current and flick forward of it. Let the plastic sink and drift right into the sweet spot, then WHACK. You've got yourself a very good fight.
It is also helpful for casting accuracy. lead shows up beautifully on gel coat fibreglass (just kidding).
legally you are not tresspassing in the tidal zone. Providing you aren't climbing on their wharves. (They never use them anyway)

It sounds like you live near me. I have lost my drivers licence for the next 6 months. Do you fancy being a chauffer in return for some wicked spots?
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Old 22-09-2003, 07:52 PM
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Fellas,

I too live near Greenwich. I think we might have the foundations for the "Land Based Lower North Shore Breamer's Society"!
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Old 24-09-2003, 12:55 AM
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Hello Struggler,

Just out of curiosity - what atomics are you using and what
colours?

Bream seem hard to tempt at the moment.
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