Rod length vs Casting distance

[Alex The Angler]

Hi,
I currently have 2 rods both 6'10", if I got a 6" rod would I lose much casting distance? As I saw a Mojiko Tourney rod (rebadged Pflueger Trion Tournament) for $40 a little while ago.

Cheers Alex

[IceManDude]

For $40 who cares..... yes you will lose some casting distance. How much depends on everything else in the equation. lure, line, leader, reel, weather conditions etc.

[CHOPS1]

Alex, i can cast with my 1000 soare on my battler taurus which is 6' as far if not slighty further than with my 7' rod teamed up with a 2506.
It can all depend on what iceman says a combination of line, reel, lure, wind.
But also rod action, the length might seem to make the most difference but action and taper can make the most. so many variables when it comes too that.

Chop

[IceManDude]

Originally Posted by CHOPS1

But also rod action, the length might seem to make the most difference but action and taper can make the most. so many variables when it comes too that.

Ummm yeah, that was in the 'etc' bit

[yellow door 1]

I agree with the other fellas

Different knots can also help give you those extra cms on the cast. Albrights are pretty slim.

I used to use "double uni's" but changed to "5 turn surgeons" and found they slipped through the guides better and didnt get weakened by slapping hard through the guides like the uni's did.

Using a shorter leader with the knot outside the guides when casting makes a big difference.

I use alot of 4cm bibbed minnows and developing a casting style that doesnt make the lure tumble through the air also gives you distance. Or you could just use heavier lures or those that have recognised the importance of long casts in their design.

But switching from 6lb line to 4lb made the most difference.

All that said - when the bream are firing on the shallow banks - it's sometimes advantageous to not cast as far as you can.

What I mean is - if you sneek around and can get a fish on a 15m cast, it means you only spook the fish between you and where it was hooked as you drag it back.

But if you do a 45m cast, its possible to shut down 45m of productive bank when you could have pulled 3 or 4 from the same stretch.

The reason I mention it is because I'm a bit of a sad case and I know some of the banks I fish particularly well I know the ambush points and some of them are very close together so I try not to cover 3 at a time if I can help it

And in saying that I always punch long casts at the start of a session and only shorten them if I find the fish are firing

[bream miagi]

the braid your using makes all the diff in my opinion...good quality pe[like varivas].....ive been using varivas egiing[milki].6 8lb and"power finess"pe .8 11lb in a 8plat weave with "silky touch" and pe conditioner and can cast alot further than usual....i dont think the length of pole has much to do with distance of the cast at all....getting pretty much the same distance wether using 7'2 dancing bream or 6'6 bayliner...

[yellow door 1]

Yeah with all things being equal - I always thought the major advantage of a longer rod was how fast the tip guide is moving as the lure is released.

If you put a bit of tape at the 6 foot mark - that piece of tape would be traveling slower than the tip guide at the 7 foot mark.

But without casting control and the correct loading of the rod in question - the extra foot may be wasted.

If you cast like you are trying to hammer a 9 inch nail in one go - you're going to need a rod that makes allowances for your style.

But some lures somersault through the air at very high speeds of release, diminishing the overall distance travelled by the lure, (or maybe its the eratic releases) - a slower smoother cast can make it travel further. Other lures may react very well to high speed snap pingin'

Actually this subject is doing my head in - there are so many variables

Get the rod, go to the local park with a measuring tape and work it out for yourself

and post the results

[nuckle]

the longer the rod the better she goes...

[Alex The Angler]

Will give it a go, but knowing my luck it'll be gone by now.

[bream_mc]

Fellow breamers, its not the size of the rod that counts but its how you use it

[Dan Walter]

yep agree with everyone, lines leaders knots lures it all equates. I personaly find that a shorter rod gives me a more accurate cast but it could just be me, generaly i do use a longer rod for the flats and a shorter rod in the snags but it really dont matter like has been stated in the end its how you use it