To Sit-on or Sit-in that is thee question

Sandworm · #1 02-04-2003, 09:53 PM

or is that to get wet, or not so wet? i dunno

The sit on looks the go (when warm) but i am thinking i will be rather wet and cold in the winter months. Esp if i venture out onto the bay!!

any idea's?

Sandworm · #2 02-04-2003, 10:51 PM

Does anyone have, used, or know about,

the "Open Top Viking Pacer, 2.7Mtrs" sounds a tad short altho this may suit my car more than then 3.3M

At the moment i am thinking of the Eskepee(spelling) but this Viking has poped up second hand and well if its suitable i may look at buying one.

info guys?

bparker · #3 02-04-2003, 10:52 PM

Hi Sandworm,

as you may know I've been looking at Canoes / Kayaks for a while too...at the moment I'm leaning towards sit-in instead of sit- on.

I do a lot of fishing in winter on the Patto and it can get bloody cold. I think I'd rather not get myself or my gear too wet.

I've narrowed my choice down to down to either a small canadian type canoe or a small kayak (Australis Bass, Perception Minnow) possibly with a spray deck.

Still looking for one at the right price.

Sandworm · #4 02-04-2003, 11:06 PM

I am leaning towards the sit-on due to more room and easyer to move etc, plus easyer to get at your gear. As you say though its going to be wet and cold!

i am also looking at a sit in to keep options open.

shoey · #5 03-04-2003, 01:14 AM

hi guys, i looked for months! bought a sit- on and love it.

You definately get a wet arse, but a wet or dry suit should keep you warm.Plugging the scupper holes also helps. After this weekend we should all catch up down the Patto after work or on the weekend.The guy who makes the Pacer is in Seaford and he lets you take one for a couple of hours to see if you like it(no charge).He also has a longer one called the Espree. Personally I think the Pacer is too small.You may get too tired paddling into the wind and current.
The minnow is also a good sit-in.

Shoey

Sandworm · #6 03-04-2003, 02:30 AM

well normally i like choice but this time its just making it so hard!

Yes i would like to catch up! for sure. Maybe myself and bp might end up buying at a similar time (may get use better prices?!?!)

Ol' slab sides · #7 03-04-2003, 04:19 AM

G'day guys

I've got a minnow & it's pretty good keeps ya dry but it can get a little cramped after a while. I guess sit-ins & sit-ons both have their pros & cons

Slab

Sandworm · #8 03-04-2003, 06:10 PM

you do stay dry tho dont you? with a splash cover?

Also .... DOh forgot what i was going to say (got the fishing show on my walkman at work, it muck's me up

ahhh thats it! how does this compare to a sit on top for say the bay where you have more waves,

is one better than the other in river or waves?

I guess i could attach a crate to the sit in and keep my stuff in that?

(think the advantage in the sit in is dryer, the sit-on is more storage room, and some say safer if you flip it - eg not stuck in it)

Ol' slab sides · #9 04-04-2003, 04:30 AM

G'day sandworm

I dont use a spray deck but it probably would be a good idea in winter when ya just dont want to get wet at all.
The lip that the spray deck attaches to stops most waves, boat wash, chop from coming in but I still get wet off the paddle.
I reakon your right about a sit-on being safer mate cause it would also be a lot more bouyant than my minnow...

slab

yaker · #10 04-04-2003, 07:23 AM

One thing with some sit-ins...

The scupper holes are at the highest point in the seat wells so you are always sitting in water (designer must have been a rocket scientist!). Others are okay with the holes at the lowest point so water doesn't have to run uphill. You still get wet but your not sitting in a puddle.

Tony
http://www.aus-kayak-fishing.com/

Sandworm · #11 06-04-2003, 11:12 PM

well guys it has almost reached the 15th of the month were i have permision to buy the kayak and other bits needed!

so i need to work out what i will buy.

I think at this stage i will go with the sitontop only because it looks to have more storage??

but in winter that wet bum will be a huge pain!

whats better in the bay? sit in or sit on? this could determine what i get as most the time it will not be dead smooth water i'm fishing (eg rivers)

will be lakes and the like inc bays

regards

shoey · #12 07-04-2003, 01:07 AM

hi sandworm, just got back from lake tyers. had an absolute blast.

caught 3 nice flatties, 6 tailor 2 pinkies no bream. ended up paddling about 15klms on a wind chop lake and found the sit on top handled it beautifully.

i spoke with a guy who had a sit in sea kayak and he had to strap everything to the deck. he thought my set up looked better for fishing than his.

this was my longest outing to date and would have gone further but had to spend time with the family.

shoey

Sandworm · #13 07-04-2003, 01:09 AM

how did you carry the kayak roof?
looks like i will roof mine (poor car)

also, did ya get wet, and cold?

I cant wait to get out on the water

shoey · #14 07-04-2003, 01:29 AM

i've found that if you continually get in and out you get cold very quickly.

first day was in shorts and tshirt.it rained, i got wet, but was not cold.
second day launched at 6am. wore tracksuit pants under plastic pants and a tshirt. only got a wet bum, and ended up wishing i'd worn shorts.
carried it down on rola roof racks.

shoey

Sandworm · #15 07-04-2003, 01:33 AM

ahhhhh so yu wear cloths on the kayak i assumed that a wetsuit would be needed as it was going to be really wet.

i'm rather small and a very light in the weight department so i get cold easy!

maybe i should just go buy one and start having fun!

i'll get a wet suit i think also to keep me warm