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Old 26-05-2016, 10:15 PM
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Interesting read might have to try fabric softener. Is there instructions on its application?
I know you're only here for the pictures - so I've cut out the boring bits

The tests were done following the directions on the back of the bottle. I'm not sure what those directions are.

But dont buy it yet - I'll grab some and test it out
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Old 26-05-2016, 10:24 PM
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Old 27-05-2016, 12:32 AM
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lol, thanks for the summation, Generally fabric softener is used in conjunction with washing powder, was just thinking whether they skipped that phase and just soaked in the fabric softener, but hey I don't do laundry so might have to leave this to the expert
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Old 27-05-2016, 02:46 AM
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lol, thanks for the summation, Generally fabric softener is used in conjunction with washing powder, was just thinking whether they skipped that phase and just soaked in the fabric softener, but hey I don't do laundry so might have to leave this to the expert
Yeah the cynic in me took a second to think that Goretex might recommend against fabric softeners because they do the same thing as their sprays that cost 50 times more per treatment.

But I havent tried it yet - it could be useless.

But tell the missus the 800ml bottle is on sale at coles at the moment - 25% off I'm not going to put any washing powder in when I do it. I reckon I'll chuck some in a 10L bucket and swish it around a bit

Here's the directions - ( I couldnt find the concentrate but I got the non concentrate version of the one tested)
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Old 27-05-2016, 03:37 AM
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heres the fabric softener directions
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Old 27-05-2016, 03:41 AM
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Larry you are certainly turning into a man for all seasons
I've been known to take a day off here and there but most of the time I'm flat out, taking care of business

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Old 27-05-2016, 04:34 AM
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I have used the grangers products and they work well, was reading that putting the garment on low heat in the dryer can help re-activate the water proofing.

The other thing you should not do is use washing powder.
Dishwashing liquid doesn't strip the water proofing.

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Old 27-05-2016, 04:52 AM
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I have used the grangers products and they work well, was reading that putting the garment on low heat in the dryer can help re-activate the water proofing.

The other thing you should not do is use washing powder.
Dishwashing liquid doesn't strip the water proofing.
Yeah I was surprised to see how much effect the washing machine had on its ability to repel - I'll keep the dishwashing liquid handy for my future jackets
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Old 27-05-2016, 05:56 PM
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But dont buy it yet - I'll grab some and test it out
Well I learnt a few things - First was how to use the fabric softener dispenser in my washing machine - Second was how to remove all the filth that can clog up aforementioned dispenser.

But the real aim of the test was about waterproofing and the results were inconclusive. Applying the softener didnt hurt the jackets ability to shed water but I dont know how much it improved it either.

I was expecting the water to bead up and not soak in at all. I was hoping it would leave no trace on the jacket - this didnt happen.

Rubbing the water with my finger may not be the most realistic test of real life conditions - but I stuck my arm under the shower and the jacket was still "wetting out".

Next step will be the grangers or revivex - or what ever my local hiking store has on the shelves.

One positive out come from the test is my jacket used to smell like fish slime - now it smells like the air freshener they use in Heaven

(The vid isnt really worth watching - in fact I recommend against it - its unscientific, poorly shot and boring, Unless you like watching a guy rub a Goretex jacket in a dimly lit room - but the footage on cleaning out the Fabric softener dispenser may be of interest)

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Well I finally got some Grangers Wash and repel.

There nothing scientific about my test but in my opinion - it works alot better than fabric softener.

It cost $34.95 at "Mountain Design" - $3 less if you sign up and give them your email address

Theres enough in the bottle to do your jacket and pants 3 times.

According to the independent lab tests - the "clean and proof" (I'm assuming "wash and repel" is the updated version) was the second longest lasting proofer they tried. Only beaten by the "Grangers XT spray"
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I have used "tire shine" on my boat cover. It defiantly seems to bead the water than it did without, will have to try it on my fake gortex jackets.
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I have used "tire shine" on my boat cover. It defiantly seems to bead the water than it did without, will have to try it on my fake gortex jackets.
Yeah I'm not qualified to give advice on that but I would be very interested to see the before and after photos

Having a jacket you can shake the rain off keeps it lighter but more importantly - evaporative cooling isnt such an issue.
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Well I finally got some Grangers Wash and repel.

There nothing scientific about my test but in my opinion - it works alot better than fabric softener.

It cost $34.95 at "Mountain Design" - $3 less if you sign up and give them your email address

Theres enough in the bottle to do your jacket and pants 3 times.

According to the independent lab tests - the "clean and proof" (I'm assuming "wash and repel" is the updated version) was the second longest lasting proofer they tried. Only beaten by the "Grangers XT spray"
Have to get on to this stuff too Larry - after last week's tuna session, i'm afraid to go anywhere near my wet weather gear right now
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Old 08-06-2016, 07:16 PM
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Have to get on to this stuff too Larry - after last week's tuna session, i'm afraid to go anywhere near my wet weather gear right now
Yeah unfortunately the Grangers product doesnt smell anywhere near as nice as the fabric softener - But I think its, almost neutral smell, is by design.

Hunters are very specific about how there clothes should smell - one of the first questions they ask about a product is whether or not it is scented.

Most of Grangers products recommend that your jacket is spotless before applying their water-proofer. Any trace of fish slime or dirt or even traces of laundry detergent should be removed from the jacket.

So maybe wash the blood and slime off your jacket first. All the gortex dudes say that dirt, slime and soapy residues cause the fibres of their jackets to lie down flat. This stops the water from beading and running off. The fibres need to be standing straight up or water will soak into the outer layer of the Jacket. Chucking your jacket in the dryer on the lowest heat setting after its been washed will bring the fibres back up but check the label to see if your jacket can handle the dryer.

But the dilemma is - every time you send your Jacket through the washing machine using laundry powder - it reduces the life of the water repellent.

So Ideally a jacket shouldnt even go through the washing machine. I know I'm going to take more care to not get mine so filthy. I might even just spot clean the filth of with a sponge. That might be tough if your hugging tuna though

So if you want a jacket that smells like Heaven - use the fabric softener - but if you want the water proofing - go with Grangers
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Old 09-09-2016, 03:57 AM
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Just another hot tip for your Jacket

I left mine on the train the other day, so I got a new one. I've only had the new one for a month and I left it down the river last night.

It was gone when I went back to check this morning.

But luckily I had written my phone number with permanent marker inside the jacket.

Long story short

I got my jacket back.
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