Reel options for heavy plastics/mid size option

[Witha]

G'day guys, so after my last post on a Jewie rod have figured i'd get the reel first then make sure the weight is right on some of the rod options i narrowed down.
The reel options have come down to: Certate 25XX (this is the top end of the price range and only a possibility), Sustain 2500/3000, Biomaster 2500fb.
Majority of this reels usage will be throwing placcies around for jew and flatties, but also most likely spinning for salmon and as a general purpose midfield reel.
Ups and Downs the the 3 i've seen: Biomaster comes with anti corrosion spray, spare spool (one spool 8lb-10lb and one spool 15lb-20 most likely), 5.0 gear ratio. Sustain has the 6.0 ratio which is good for taking up the slack quick and spinning metals side, the option of a 3000 size, pedigree and slightly lighter. Then the certate...well i've never owned a Daiwa but you guys seem to rage about them. And after feeling the 2500 size it feels great in the hand and is the right weight and smoothness. But having never tested one I don't know. The downside of the tate would be the lower ratio, and the shallow spool
Any input appreciated guys. Hopefully get the cash together soon to grab one of the options.
(Oh and i didn't include JDM luvias because ideally i'd like an aussie warranty and repair-ability as it will get used in the Kayak so dunking is possible)

[tw9635]

Originally Posted by Witha

G'day guys, so after my last post on a Jewie rod have figured i'd get the reel first then make sure the weight is right on some of the rod options i narrowed down.
The reel options have come down to: Certate 25XX (this is the top end of the price range and only a possibility), Sustain 2500/3000, Biomaster 2500fb.
Majority of this reels usage will be throwing placcies around for jew and flatties, but also most likely spinning for salmon and as a general purpose midfield reel.
Ups and Downs the the 3 i've seen: Biomaster comes with anti corrosion spray, spare spool (one spool 8lb-10lb and one spool 15lb-20 most likely), 5.0 gear ratio. Sustain has the 6.0 ratio which is good for taking up the slack quick and spinning metals side, the option of a 3000 size, pedigree and slightly lighter. Then the certate...well i've never owned a Daiwa but you guys seem to rage about them. And after feeling the 2500 size it feels great in the hand and is the right weight and smoothness. But having never tested one I don't know. The downside of the tate would be the lower ratio, and the shallow spool
Any input appreciated guys. Hopefully get the cash together soon to grab one of the options.
(Oh and i didn't include JDM luvias because ideally i'd like an aussie warranty and repair-ability as it will get used in the Kayak so dunking is possible)

The tate 2500 has a much deeper spool than the other two. If your from a yak id say get the sustain 3000 or bombaster, if u drop the certate in you'll have to pay $100 for a service whereas you may be able to service your shimano reels yourself.

[chopperdog]

A 2500 Certate doesn't have a shallow spool

You can buy a Certate in a high gear as well. We just don't see them in the big chain stores here. The model is a 2510pe-h. They have a black anodised spool and handle too which makes them one of the nicest looking reels around.

The come with a medium spool capacity holding about 200m of pe1. That should be heaps for what you want I think but up to you of course.

http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/p...r-fishing.html

[BrizVegasBretto]

Originally Posted by Witha

The reel options have come down to:

Certate 25XX
Sustain 2500/3000
Biomaster 2500fb.

Everything you've mentioned there will serve your purpose. Spare spools aren't the be all and end all. I don't think the lower ratio is a deal breaker either.

It'll come down to personal preference.

[Witha]

Originally Posted by tw9635

The tate 2500 has a much deeper spool than the other two. If your from a yak id say get the sustain 3000 or bombaster, if u drop the certate in you'll have to pay $100 for a service whereas you may be able to service your shimano reels yourself.

Yeah meant the 2510 or similar, I think you're right. Shimanos are a heap easier to service and yeah i can do most of it myself. Any preference between bio and sustain/

Originally Posted by chopperdog

A 2500 Certate doesn't have a shallow spool

You can buy a Certate in a high gear as well. We just don't see them in the big chain stores here. The model is a 2510pe-h. They have a black anodised spool and handle too which makes them one of the nicest looking reels around.

The come with a medium spool capacity holding about 200m of pe1. That should be heaps for what you want I think but up to you of course.

http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/p...r-fishing.html

Yeah true the only one i've seen that comes close was the 2510per i think. just havnt seen them around.

Originally Posted by BrizVegasBretto

Everything you've mentioned there will serve your purpose. Spare spools aren't the be all and end all. I don't think the lower ratio is a deal breaker either.

It'll come down to personal preference.

Yeah the choice is tricky as i want one of each haha. True a spare spool for the sustain wouldnt be that hard to come by. And I fish with a 5.2 ratio at the moment and its not that bad. Back to the umming and ahhing board.

[Witha]

If i take money out of the equation: do i just suck it up and buy a Tate haha.

[nagz]

Originally Posted by Witha

If i take money out of the equation: do i just suck it up and buy a Tate haha.

Yep, then you wont second guess your decision becuase you've bought the best you can

[Witha]

Guess it really comes down to the magseal / maintenance question between the sustain and the tate. Now that magseal has been around for a while how good does it work?? Can you remove the spool yourself? Or is that a no-no. If it gets a bit of paddle splash on the yak, is that a hundred bucks to get it serviced? Or just a quick wipe off.

[spork]

Have been using a 2004 size 2014 'tate on the 'yak since xmas. Has copped plenty of splashes but the magseal seems to be doing it's job.
Also have a 1000 size sustain, which is also going strong after about 9 months use. Both are great reels, but the certate just feels that little bit more solid / tighter. (no freeplay in handle etc).
Both are great little spin reels, I can't fault either of them.

[Danmaso]

Certate 2500R is the perfect option!

[Witha]

Originally Posted by spork

Have been using a 2004 size 2014 'tate on the 'yak since xmas. Has copped plenty of splashes but the magseal seems to be doing it's job.
Also have a 1000 size sustain, which is also going strong after about 9 months use. Both are great reels, but the certate just feels that little bit more solid / tighter. (no freeplay in handle etc).
Both are great little spin reels, I can't fault either of them.

Cheers Spork that's a weight off my mind haha as a uni student a hundred bucks every time it gets wet gives me the shivers. Love my little sustain too, maybe the next purchase will be a 4000 of the fg's :P and now back to the drawing board on rods

[Gofishing]

Mate if you think the certate is expensive check out fream 2500 at $150

http://digitaka.com/item.php?icid=9&id=839

That very cheap and decent reel to use on yak.

[HVBfishaholic]

Originally Posted by Witha

Guess it really comes down to the magseal / maintenance question between the sustain and the tate. Now that magseal has been around for a while how good does it work?? Can you remove the spool yourself? Or is that a no-no. If it gets a bit of paddle splash on the yak, is that a hundred bucks to get it serviced? Or just a quick wipe off.

I have been running Magseal Certates for a number of years now, all 2010 (2004H, 2506H and 2508RH) models which are still going strong with heavy saltwater and estuary usage - you can remove the spool and spray down with fresh water without any detrimental effects and no water enters the reel body. I use a Synthetic Teflon based oil for lubrication and have not had the need to strip down one of these Certates completely in 4 years now.

Could not be happier with Certate reels - changed from Stella's in early 2010 and am a convert to Daiwa.

[Witha]

Originally Posted by HVBfishaholic

I have been running Magseal Certates for a number of years now, all 2010 (2004H, 2506H and 2508RH) models which are still going strong with heavy saltwater and estuary usage - you can remove the spool and spray down with fresh water without any detrimental effects and no water enters the reel body. I use a Synthetic Teflon based oil for lubrication and have not had the need to strip down one of these Certates completely in 4 years now.

Could not be happier with Certate reels - changed from Stella's in early 2010 and am a convert to Daiwa.

Thanks for that mate, good to get some first hand reports. Would you spray with inox or similar or just leave it be? Also do they have maintenance ports like the shimano's for adding oil? Or is there a special way you're adding the teflon oil to them? I'm a bit of a stickler for maintenance and i loved stripping and reworking my shimanos but with the certate i think i'll be using a different approach haha not good enough to tackle space age daiwa sorcery

[Witha]

Originally Posted by Gofishing

Mate if you think the certate is expensive check out fream 2500 at $150

http://digitaka.com/item.php?icid=9&id=839

That very cheap and decent reel to use on yak.

Hi mate yeah i did check them out, and if Yak fishing was 90% and landbased 10% i would be going a cheaper reel, but for the long haul i figured i'd put a bit of money in otherwise i'd second guess myself and just want a shinier reel :P