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Old 28-04-2013, 08:23 AM
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Luvias dunked, will it survive?

Dunked my Luvias 12 2004 the other day whilst undoing a tangle. Problem is, it may have been in the water for up to 15 secs. Not sure. Have had this happen 2 or 3 times to my shimano aernos and it loved the swim and was a ok afterwards, but already feeling slight crunches in positions. Have inoxed it, but hasn't made much difference. Will it stay slightly crunchy or deteriorate? What should I do?

Also, been putting heavy drag on big bream, carp and Mully's, and will smash it on big SA salmon and snapper this season. Is this ok for the gearing or is the Luvias a bit weak? Please, honest advice.
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Old 28-04-2013, 08:51 AM
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It's probably never gonna be smooth like it was If it was mine I'd call it stuffed, you may not mind grindy reels as much though. You should have put it in a bucket of fresh warm water asap after it happened and then sent it to daiwa.

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Old 28-04-2013, 12:31 PM
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My luvias corroded inside after a couple of sessions out in the yak. The service at daiwa cost more than my purchase price.
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Old 28-04-2013, 05:15 PM
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After a reel takes a dip in saltwater, it should immediately, or as soon as possible, be submerged in fresh water, and sent off to Daiwa or Shimano for service.
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Old 28-04-2013, 06:45 PM
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Needs to be serviced for sure, otherwise you will witness its slow grindy death.

The problem with immersion in salt is once the water evaporates it leaves the salt crystals behind which slowly grind away at all of your bearings and gears (which is what that crunching is). If you get it off for a service (if its not the mag seal model you can do it yourself if you feel confident) and everything gets a good clean and re-lube it should be a drama at all if you haven't already done too much damage by winding it.
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Old 28-04-2013, 07:15 PM
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How much will a service on a magsealed Luvias set me back?
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Old 28-04-2013, 07:16 PM
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Just send it away to daiwa for a service. I wouldn't be putting it under to much pressure on the bigger fish, I caught a few meter style queenies on mine and that was the end of it
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Old 28-04-2013, 07:19 PM
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Depends on how many parts need to be replaced, just give daiwa service department a call. Being mag sealed it might not have fared too badly and just need a roller and a re-lube.
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Old 28-04-2013, 08:10 PM
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needs to be pulled apart and cleaned immediately and all the bearings soaked in oil.
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Old 28-04-2013, 08:15 PM
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Service at daiwa for Magsealed reels starts at $60
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Old 28-04-2013, 10:03 PM
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It's probably never gonna be smooth like it was If it was mine I'd call it stuffed, you may not mind grindy reels as much though. You should have put it in a bucket of fresh warm water asap after it happened and then sent it to daiwa.
This is a rediculous comment. The reel will not be stuffed - and for all of you out there - NEVER submerge a reel, regardless!

Submerging a reel will just force water into the bearings - fresh or salt, they will both result in corrosion. All daiwa reels have a major bearing under the rotor, this generally goes first and results in the "grindy" sensation. The other bearing affected by water ingress are generally the rotor bearings.

If you submerge a reel - pull it out asap and give it a light hose down with fresh water. then make sure it dries thoroughly. from here you can asses the damage. if you can, use the reel. Sitting it on bench, if water has entered the bearings, will speed up the corrosive processes - using it, in theory, will atleast keep the bearings moving and hopefully will force out the water.
The gears in the reel will be fine.
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Old 28-04-2013, 10:30 PM
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This is a rediculous comment. The reel will not be stuffed - and for all of you out there - NEVER submerge a reel, regardless!

Submerging a reel will just force water into the bearings - fresh or salt, they will both result in corrosion. All daiwa reels have a major bearing under the rotor, this generally goes first and results in the "grindy" sensation. The other bearing affected by water ingress are generally the rotor bearings.

If you submerge a reel - pull it out asap and give it a light hose down with fresh water. then make sure it dries thoroughly. from here you can asses the damage. if you can, use the reel. Sitting it on bench, if water has entered the bearings, will speed up the corrosive processes - using it, in theory, will atleast keep the bearings moving and hopefully will force out the water.
The gears in the reel will be fine.
You submerge it in fresh to dissolve the salt out of it which will cause the damage the fact that he did nothing about it and just kept using it is what will do the damage I can almost guarentee that daiwa will replace corroded parts and the cost to get this thing fixed will probably be rediculus. fresh water is nowhere near as bad as saltwater.

Pretty sure even in one of the daiwa maintenance videos the guy recommends submerging your reel in fresh water if you dunk it in salt, them to send it straight to daiwa for a service.

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Old 28-04-2013, 11:21 PM
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This is a rediculous comment. The reel will not be stuffed - and for all of you out there - NEVER submerge a reel, regardless!

Submerging a reel will just force water into the bearings - fresh or salt, they will both result in corrosion. All daiwa reels have a major bearing under the rotor, this generally goes first and results in the "grindy" sensation. The other bearing affected by water ingress are generally the rotor bearings.

If you submerge a reel - pull it out asap and give it a light hose down with fresh water. then make sure it dries thoroughly. from here you can asses the damage. if you can, use the reel. Sitting it on bench, if water has entered the bearings, will speed up the corrosive processes - using it, in theory, will atleast keep the bearings moving and hopefully will force out the water.
The gears in the reel will be fine.
This is contrary to what the Daiwa Website says. It says to dunk it in fresh water immediately after, then send it off to them.

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Old 29-04-2013, 12:10 AM
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Reel will work but the question is for how much longer?.no matter how well you clean it without taking it to bits....it's not gonna help even though you keep on telling and hearing people says its ok.
Main corrosion will be in the bearings.salt water once dried up leaves some residue crystal and over time,that will cause the bearings to fail.only way to get it right is to completely flush all the bearings out.i do mean all of em!!.
Main gears and pinion and the rest can use a clean as well when you got all the bits into pieces.literally into pieces.
A bit time consuming to get it right but worth it in the long run.when all is clean,normal lube is all it needed.
Just my two cents on maintaining reel that been dunked!!.
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Old 29-04-2013, 08:11 AM
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Breambo1 as requested.

1.unscrew the nut at the base. This allows you to take off the base plate and expose the drive gears and the inside of the reel including the bearings.of.the pinon. This allows you to soak your reel in warm water and water can drain out from the botttom.plate.



2. to take off the rotor you need to remove the wire clip. Use a safety pin and CAREFUL not to let.that clip fly off cos you won't find it again.



3. once you remove the clip take off the bearing and you will see a little hole which hides a pin rod. Use a needle to push this pin rod out. Once done you should be able to remove the spool metal seat.



4. you should now take out the.screw (in photo 1 next to centre shaft/rotor nut)

the rotor can be then removed.

this is as far as I would recommend you go in taking your reel apart. if your are not experienced with reel maintaince going further will be inviting disaster

hope this helps. If there is spelling errors.I apologise I'm typing on my phone

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