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Old 22-06-2009, 12:06 PM
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Ban the netters

Just thought I would try and inspire some of you bream hunters to become more involved and informed with ‘your’ fishery. Bream fanatics are just as wired about blackie fishing as game fisherman are about marlin- you love them and treat them like pets. You are sports anglers, not meat fishermen.

Obviuosly there is already a lot of recreational pressure on estuaries around the place. Fisheries surveys estimated that approximately 20% of the recreational fishing effort occurs in estuaries and rivers.

There are recreational and commercial netters still working estuarine waters along the WA south coast extracting a variety of fish, including bream....really it’s not a good long-term picture. Maybe we should be doing something now????

Recreational and Commercial netters are taking tonnes and tonnes of fish out some of your favourite southern bream waters and it seems no one cares. Places like Pallinup which really are wilderness waters containing trophy black bream, any angler would be proud to catch are heavily netted.

Winter is the time the netters are out there catching all the bream. Heavy rain can cause bream in tributaries to move downstream into the open waters of estuary basins, where they are vulnerable to capture by netters. I can’t find any research on what the recreational netters take every year but 63.5 tonnes of black bream were caught by commercial netters in 2005 along the south coast.

In 2006, the total black bream catch was 33.8 t, which was lower than in 2005 but still 3.1 t more than the 10-year (1996 – 2005) average catch ( see chart). Just for interest the highest annual catch of black bream along the south coast was 97 tonnes in 1992. That’s a lot of Black bream
In 2006, Beaufort Inlet (Pallinup) , Stokes Inlet and Wilson Inlet contributed 86% of total black bream landings, while Oyster Harbour, Oldfield Inlet, Irwin Inlet, Gordon Inlet and Princess Royal Harbour contributed the rest.

I’m sure these figures will be a bit of a shock to you ……hopefully though it gives you some idea what is being extracted by netters. Personally I think both recreational and commercial net fishing of coastal estuaries is unsustainable and fishing by nets should be banned.

If like me you care about your fishery why not make the effort to do some good. During the next few weeks of rainy wet days when you can’t go fishing write a letter to your local member of Parliament, Fisheries Minister, Recfishwest and who every else you can think of to voice your disapproval of net fishing in our estuaries.
See if we can show that you are respectful and responsible anglers who care about the welfare of our estuaries.

References: Department of Fisheries State of the Fisheries Report 2006/07 223
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Old 22-06-2009, 07:23 PM
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Does not matter how you do the sums, that is a hell of a lot of 1kg fish. Even if they are 500g fish it is twice the amount.

If we needed the fish to feed local towns and people who like to eat bream then it would be tolerable but when a lot of this fish ends up in cat food, that is down right ridiculous.

Slow growing native fish should never be an extender to pet food.

Next time you are at the super market, have a look at a few brands and see what they use in your area.

We have a brand here in WA made locally that uses Bream which is where I guess most of the bream goes, pretty rare that you see it on ice at the fish shop.

Instead of arguing the trials and tribulations of Gulp, if a few people acted on this it would probably get off the ground. Unfortunately unless people (us) mention things to the powers that be they have no power to do anything about it. The fact that they want an excuse to turn this area of the coast into wilderness areas would probably help the cause.

I will try and dig up some e mail addresses for people to e mail if they get the inclination.

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Old 22-06-2009, 07:52 PM
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And we pay to stock some of those systems so that they can keep netting them. Doesn't add up to me.
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Old 22-06-2009, 07:58 PM
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cheers Ian...(I didnt go to bed after all)

The interesting thing is (and not acknowleged by Fisheries) is that there are less pro netters than a few years ago. BUT.......Pro effort has decreased (less pro's) but Catch Per Unit Effort (CPUE) has spiked over the last few years....
what that means in Gulp terms is that the Pro's are catching more bream with less effort.

I hear you Bear....seems silly doesnt it.

Not sure if people know but it is believed that different estuary systems have genetically different blackies living in them.......which makes any future stocking problematic......
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Old 22-06-2009, 08:02 PM
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sorry I should clarify

Im for banning both rec and pro nets in estuaries

its not all about the commercials.....
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Old 22-06-2009, 09:15 PM
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I heard from a mate that pensioners are alowed to set up nets/fish traps on one day of the week in parts of the metro area is this true becuase this does not seam right to me or am I being fed the wrong info
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Old 22-06-2009, 09:34 PM
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Nathan.....see here mate http://www.fish.wa.gov.au/sec/rec/west/index.php

dont think you informant is correct as most of the metro is closed to netting both in the swan/canning and the ocean....

Have a read.....
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Old 22-06-2009, 10:36 PM
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Talk to the guys at Fishing W.A about it. I'm sure they would love to help.....and promote netting in our south-west...idiots!
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Old 22-06-2009, 11:57 PM
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On the ball Phil.
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Old 23-06-2009, 01:08 AM
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interesting thread salmo, cheers for the insight and information.
since fishing the Blackwood it's real disheartening to hear the river is still netted.
sports fishermen could run this program parallel to the salmon fishery as most of the catch culminates as cat food and for me personally the only good cat is a dead cat.....
but studies have been done and align to the fact that economically sportfishing brings in way more $$ than netting. least sportfishing dollars are spread through the community; from accommodation, fuel, bait, tacke and food etc and not just to small operators.
it's 2009 and time to incorporate best practice mangement.
lets go cull rabbits, pigs, foxes and the like and feed them to cats. studies indicate cats in arid regions can kill 20-30 million animals a year at a conservative estimate.
most sprotfisher realise the value of conservation and stock management associated with catch and release fishing.
Im for supporting conservation of the species, but most importantly the habitiat
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Old 23-06-2009, 01:26 AM
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Netting

Guys,

Both Scary and Sad, do you guys pay as license fee in WA? Over East we pay a fee and all money goes into a recreational trust. The money has been used to buy out netting in enitre waterways where primary targets where mullett, blackfish and bream.

Port Macquarie and Lake Macquarie, not related by proximity, are two great examples where the fisheries have improved dramatically although they still beach haul which is a crying shame .

Traditionally anglers are a loose lot without a great deal of funds, we tend to talk a lot amoungst ourselves and that's where it usually ends IMO.

If fees are paid by anglers the money was pooled and used to PAY someone to fight the battle and cocordinate the efforts of anglers we would be far better off.

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Old 23-06-2009, 01:48 AM
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This is what i have got from the link sorry I was refering to Mandurah as metro

Peel-Harvey Inlet (Mandurah) All waters of thePeel Inlet and the Harvey River estuary system are conditionally open to recreational set and throw netting excluding the Channel entrance to Peel Inlet, the Yunderup canals, and theHarvey,Serpentine and Murray Rivers.

I was wondering if anybody was to know the "conditions" of set nets in Mandurah the more you look in to this the more disturbing it is
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Old 23-06-2009, 01:57 AM
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Ban them or buy them out , its slowley working down here in the gippsland area just take a look at the results from vic bream 2 weeks ago , no pros in mallacotta for 5 years approx . Still trying to get them out of gippsland lakes , slowelly but surley
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Old 23-06-2009, 03:02 AM
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Talk to the guys at Fishing W.A about it. I'm sure they would love to help.....and promote netting in our south-west...idiots!
Jeepers Phil, hope you didn’t buy it....

Maybe you picked it up waiting at the doctors surgery eh


Re raising funds to buy the netters out....great idea

But they reportedly have spend over a $mil over the last few years down there already ...."Restructuring the fishery" ....not sure if there have been any positive outcomes though
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Old 23-06-2009, 05:08 AM
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Guys,

do you guys pay as license fee in WA? Over East we pay a fee and all money goes into a recreational trust. The money has been used to buy out netting in enitre waterways where primary targets where mullett, blackfish and bream.
Stompy WA is so f@cking backward when it comes to introducing a fee to enjoy the sport and recreation that is fishing( bar freshwater).Imagine the money raised if salties and fresh alike had to pay the $20 dollar pittance for a license to do so.
It really sh!ts me that we don't have to pay fee's to fish here.As stated how are we to fight any battles us rec fishermen see fit to fight.Rec-fish have limited funds to use to fight battles and with the looming PETA and such we could be in a world of trouble if it came to a fight over fishing rights.
Get real WA, we all should pay for our pastime.
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