surface crawlers?

[Kenshin]

anyone used these for bream particularly at night (and particularly in perth)? was thinking of trying out a halco night walker (nano version) for breaming the shoreline at night or another small brand of walker as i have had not alot of luck with other hb's at night

[Rog78]

Never seen them before Kenshin but they look sweet,I will get some for sure and let you know how I go.Thanks for the post.

[nuggman]

for $10-$12 the nano is good value. its a little tricky to get the right speed but once ya got it, it works great but i get more hits by just twitching it

[Kenshin]

from what i understand i cast it in leave it still till all the ripples around it are gone and then twitch it back slowly with a pause (5sec) every 3 or so twitches?

[Steve Morgan]

TBH, I've had more success at night on diving minnows than topwaters. Especially deep diving ones that you can bang into the bottom in shallow water.

For me, Summertime shade in the middle of the day is the prime topwatering time.

JMO

Cheers,

SM

Try the M-Rig for night fishing for Bream, developed in Japan for targeting Sea Bream at night.

Also bright colours are the go for this type of night fishing.

Tried this out on the Gold Coast last year and was suprised how well it worked

Mark

[Ben]

yer the m rig is great
ive been using those c-bream a lot just lately with good results

[Ben]

havnt tried it with the khamsin yet but i plan to

[Kenshin]

im eager to try this out so ill go buy some of the khasmans and hopfully if i can find them the c-breams

especially since i mostly bream at night

[Kenshin]

ok c-bream and khasmans located where in perth stocks the W-hooks and the tungsten weights? what size weight is needed to chuck on a khasman jr sr to make it like the pic?

Originally Posted by Kenshin

ok c-bream and khasmans located where in perth stocks the W-hooks and the tungsten weights? what size weight is needed to chuck on a khasman jr sr to make it like the pic?

Hey mate sounds like you tracked down the C-Bream, the tungsten sinker on your C-Bream is detachable and all you do is remove the middle treble on the Khamsin Jr and replace with the sinker.You could also use a drop shot sinker or squash a split shot.

Mark

[KD73]

I fish a few nights a week with a mate who knows the swan well.
We always get lots of bream and grunter as well as some small whiting.

Most of them are barely size though.

We cast out and pump the rod until the lure hits the bottem then we wind as slow as possible . Slow that we only just kept the lure hitting the bottem

The cheapest lures have very cheap brittle plastic that reacts on a higher pitch frequency when the inner ball bearing rattles against the inside of the lure.

We buy black and gold smiling jacks by the carton and paint them matt black. They work the best plus you dont stress when you lose one. They work out around 4 or 5 dollars each

We do have all the expensive lures but we can enjoy stress free casting using the chaper lures so we get more fish. We only fish flats and a lot of them have bits of junk that eat lures.

Also just be aware though that some spray cans have paint that eats plastic.

We do this regular so it is productive when done right.

KD

Originally Posted by KD73

I fish a few nights a week with a mate who knows the swan well.
We always get lots of bream and grunter as well as some small whiting.

Most of them are barely size though.

We cast out and pump the rod until the lure hits the bottem then we wind as slow as possible . Slow that we only just kept the lure hitting the bottem

The cheapest lures have very cheap brittle plastic that reacts on a higher pitch frequency when the inner ball bearing rattles against the inside of the lure.

We buy black and gold smiling jacks by the carton and paint them matt black. They work the best plus you dont stress when you lose one. They work out around 4 or 5 dollars each

We do have all the expensive lures but we can enjoy stress free casting using the chaper lures so we get more fish. We only fish flats and a lot of them have bits of junk that eat lures.

Also just be aware though that some spray cans have paint that eats plastic.

We do this regular so it is productive when done right.

KD

Rig them like the ones in the pics and you wont lose too many at all, the C-Bream bottom pic is completely snagless, I've dragged this across very broken rocky ground and haven't snagged up once

Also you can use these in much deeper water not too many lures that you can crank down past 2m so rigging this way they'll sink straight to the bottom, very slow retrieve and you'll feel Bream tapping it but resist until you get a good hit then strike sideways not upwards.

Dont think it's so much about pitch of rattles etc just simply the lure kicking up silt that attracts fish to strike because the C-Bream has no rattle at all and works very well.

Got Whiting on them as well

Mark

[KD73]

Mark

The zipbaits are very well crafted . But they are also not cheap. Szarn has quite a selection but for what we do and where we fish it it not practical to use them.

He would say that his best ever lure was the riva2sea static shad in black but they are too hard to find.

The rattle of the lure is very important when night fishing and we have used many different models over the last year. We simply use the jacks as we have had far more success on them than any other lure.


We have had great results on black baby vibes also when fishing deep water but we prefer shallow flats with some lighting in the area.


There is a wide selection of lures available these days and nearly all are well made but we simply use what works for us. We expect to get fish every night and rarely do we not.

You are quite welcome to join in with your prefered gear . Tonight was grunter night. They fought very well on 2 kilo straight through.

Kaine

Good for you mate if it's working for you then go for it.

Dizzy also has quite a selection of ZipBaits and his favourite lure is the Khamsin Jr SR, and as he's the No1 ranked angler in the country they must be working for him

All I'm saying is rig them like shown in the pic and you wont lose many lures at all, even at $4-$5 losing a few in a session starts to add up

You can use any brand of lure you like in Japan Rapala CD minnows are often used, so not saying that ZipBaits need to be used but as you can see the C-Bream has been designed specifically for this purpose

I'll stick to my M-Rigging because I know it works and I'm not going to walk away with spaces in my lure box, and I can fish ground where normal lures are going to snag up first cast

Bit of footage for those wanting to try something different, gives you an idea of the technique of how to hook up watch how he strikes to the side
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNNnZTaNVb8

Mark