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Old 28-05-2003, 06:25 PM
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Fireline Characteristics

How does Fireline compare to traditional Braids? Especially popular Japanese Braids?


Is it more or less abrasive?

Is it stiffer or more limp?

Does it have more or less memory?


anything else?


Thanks for your advice!

Gary
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Old 28-05-2003, 09:50 PM
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Hi Gary

What specific line are youalking about as there are alot of imitation lines out there. Basically the same material/design and a different box.

Spderline i though was american made or spun. Berkley have a copyright so the same formula cant get pinched. The japenese version i dont think it would be wildly different to the berkley product. As there havent be major differences in the lines. As technolgy such as pigment dying, thermal fusing havent advanced yet. Firelines havent really been around for that long so the technologies out there arent majorly different in fireline like materials.

The only difference in braid lines out there would be harros bionic braid which is a true braid not a line with thermal fusion. But bionic braid is better in slightly heavier situations as the braid has a higher memory. Platypus have put out a new braid and is having some nice reviews. For memory harro is in the planning of the new platypus braid so it should have some better results.

i dont think fireline has really come to grips with bream lure fishing as the products in 4lb are really rated to 8lb. Could brekley procduce a 2 or 3lb version with thicker fusion able handle some abrasion. But its early days still

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PS I dont have any affilations with platypus or harro just love the stuff and its the only line i use, cause it works.
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Old 28-05-2003, 10:25 PM
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From what i've heard, The Platypus Braid is softer and limper than Fireline!
Fireline is the leader in Bream fishing use by far. I am going to buy the Platypus line soon and see how it goes!
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Old 28-05-2003, 10:45 PM
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and platypus braid does'nt fluff like fireline does after a lot of use

does anyone know what colour the raw fireline is before pigments are added.the first person to come up with a clear fireline is going to be sitting on a goldmine.
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Old 28-05-2003, 11:26 PM
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next time your in a tackle shop take a look at the factory address of the platypus braid and harro's, know wonder harro's in the planning. can only be good for us


love the BB for baitcasting and trolling

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Old 28-05-2003, 11:29 PM
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TUF line was the first super-braided line to surface, as far as i know. It is a true braid as explained above
The nice thing about this line is its limpness and tensile strength to diameter ratio.
As far as i know it has the highest tensile strength to diameter ratio out of all the superlines. Its main disadvantage is that the stronger type is braided black and white and is highly visible
They do make a green but i believe it has less of the spectra fibres in it that make it so strong.
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Old 29-05-2003, 05:55 PM
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I'll have a go at the original questions:

Abrasiveness
- Equal in my opinion, it is the same material, Fireline is a "fused" Gelspun Polyethylene, braid is the same material but braided into a line. Braiding is harder to do and uses more material for the same length of finished line and the lines cost more.

Stiif/Limp
- Fireline and other "fused" lines are stiffer, they have a springiness partway between a true braid and normal nylon monofilaments. This is why the "fused" lines work on threadline reels and true braids don't. The extra springiness lets the line come off a threadline spool more cleanly when casting. True braids are very limp and don't cast well from threadline reels.

Memory
- See above. The Fireline and other "fused" lines have more memory than true braids, but less than nylon monofilaments.

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Old 29-05-2003, 07:46 PM
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Fireline is grey at the moment as they cant get the dye to bind with the fireline. The line is getting its colour from its thermal fusion., hence the gradual change in line colour.

I agree a clear fireline would be a nice break through or even better a flurocaron like fireline. It would be nice to see a line that had a low light refraction in the water also the high the abrasion qualities wouldnt hurt either.

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Old 16-06-2003, 08:23 AM
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Just a quick off thread thought about fireline fluffing up - a mate of mine is a bow hunter and he has a little wax stick thingy (not quite sure what it is )for his bow string for when it fluffs up - sooo maybe we should think about using it for "fluffy" fireline.
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