tide factor

[jhlee]

G'day Mate. I have been trying to catch my 1st bream and was trying my best to fish as often as possible. With no luck or perhaps lack of technique, i still haven't quite caught a bream yet. can any of u experienced bream chaser let me know if tide actually play a role in fishing for bream? i hope some answers can help me catch my 1st bream. Thanks mate!

Jesus guys.
I woulda thought a responce to this question would have come straight away!!!
I personally think that the incoming and hight tide are the best times to fish! The fish move to higher water and feed on the areas which on low tide were out of reach! Pylons, jetties, rockwalls, and the flats will all fire at these times!
HTH

Dave

[mark savage]

The most productive times are the rising and full by far as Kingpin has mentioned - that said, you can catch bream at other stages of the tide. Early morning and evening/dusk are also productive, even more so when coupled with a rising tide - then you can throw barometric pressure trends in the mix

This is just my personal opinion but I don't think tides make that much difference. I've caught bream on every tide imaginable and I'm actually prefering low tides as it concentrates the bream in one area more.

The two things that make more differance than tides is

1) Covering ground, keep moving till you find them.
2) Be prepared to try different lures.

If you stick to rising tides at sunset and DohDohDohDoh like that you will never learn anything. The best time to go fishing is the spare time you have, just go. The sooner you fish many different conditions the sooner you will work it out.

Ignore barometric pressure, tides, moons and all that. I don't even look at them now and I'm catching more bream than I ever have before. Like I said if you have spare time just go fishing.

[george]

G'day,

Im with Ira, fish when you have the time it will help you become a better fisherperson.

Although, being landbased I do find that certain times/conditions better suit the areas I can get to. For example, low tide is pretty useless around some of the piers and jetties I have access to. You can literally see the bream vacating as the tide falls. While on high tide they are there in numbers. So I usually leave those spots for high/rising tide.

Having a boat give lots of flexibility though (maybe one day )allowing you to target lots of spots in one session and locate the bream a lot easier.

Cheers,

George

[Ol' slab sides]

If ya landbased & theres flats around give the high tide a go, move to the channel country as the tide drops.
Just keep movin & tryin different stuff...
Check out where other anglers are catchin fish, if their pinnin em on bait you'll get em on lures...

[jimi]

I agree with Ira about fishing in as many conditions as possible. For most people these days, fishing time is defined by work and family rather than tides and the weather.

Here's an interesting thought I had the other day. Has anyone done any work into what lures or techniques work best under certain conditions. It would be very interesting to find that say green oargees catch more fish in certain rivers when there is a high tide and a new moon for example.

This kind of info would be invaluable in tournaments. Of course it won't work every time, but it would provide a good starting point.

How many of us start with the same old lures and use trial and error to find what works? If you could start with something that has been proven under the particular conditions and maybe at that location, you might be ahead of the crowd.

You'd have to collect a lot of data from a lot of trips to work this stuff out, but with some clever software or something it may be possible.

Just a thought.

James.

[mark savage]

As the lads have said above - you'll need experience as to what areas work and when, BUT starting off as you are, and wanting to get onto the right track from a (presumably) landbased position, a rising/high tide *should* give you more access to fishable water carrying bream (here in the metro anyway).
Once you get a few - start experimenting!
BTW if you do have a boat you should be able to get a bream any time of the day - providing you can work out where the hell they are!

Jimi -
Myself and my main fishing compadre have had a think about this and have already found some interesting trends locally wrt working depth of lures and tide (don't laugh Ira it's true! I swear! )
We've got a couple of productive landbased spots (at all tides) on the low, the shallow divers will work - on the high you can't get a touch with anything that won't get down below 2+. On the low tide any pattern will pull fish but high tides require red or gold.

No I'll aggree with that Mark, that's why I think low tides work better. I personally don't believe that bream do actually move up on high tide at all. That's why you need the deeper diving lures to get to them on a high tide, proves the theroy. They bream haven't moved but you need to change the lure to get to them.

How many bream do you see on high tides up on top of the water in winter? None. Oh did I say winter, yep that's right, I reckon that seasons have more to do with where the fish are at, not tides. How many bream do you see on the surface in summer regardless of tides? Heaps. Chris Lemes and I got 20 bream in Ascot waters on a .30 m tide during summer, there was only water in the channel and the flats were actually exposed. I'll bet $100 you couldn't pull them from there on that tide in winter.

Also if it's a calm day they won't move into the shallows, if there is abit of wind about you'll find them moving up more.

Just my opinion..........

[Ol' slab sides]

yeah i agree mate a bit of wind to chop the surface up is as good as the low light conditions of dawn/dusk