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Old 04-04-2003, 11:10 AM
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Your Favourite Bream Flys:)

Hi Guys,
Noticing a drop off of fly fishing info getting swapped so i will put it to you all. What is your favourite bream Flys ??? And any pics to go with of bream or flys would be good lets get the ball rolling guys.
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Old 05-04-2003, 01:50 AM
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Black Crazy Charlies at night... Slab
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Old 09-04-2003, 07:29 AM
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for bream
bms olive, white, black
thanks to one muz wilson and one chris dunham....
specially after catching my first bream over 25cm on fly in the swan this afternoon (31cm)



ohhhh and the arthur dent.....
I'll post a picture of it when i get them developed

ohhh and a smller version of the flats fly
green/red or yellow/red
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Old 09-04-2003, 08:55 PM
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G'Day Josh,

Sounds pretty obvious but it's not very often I tie on anything but a Meldrum Clouser first up, they catch fish. We have been tieing different versions of this fly, trying to replicate some of our more successful lures.

If the water is real clear or the fish are spooky (ie on the flats) I'll try a BMS, pink arsed olive.

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Old 10-04-2003, 09:53 PM
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Hi Everyone

Most times i use Crazy charlies or its various incarnations jelly belles and so on.But the BMS has been a eye opener over the last 18months has constantly produces the goods for me.

Loads of good patterns coming on to the market and new materials in the last 2 years.

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Old 11-04-2003, 02:06 AM
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Well I think the best flies in any color for Bream are worms, Baited Breath and Crazy Charlie's
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Old 11-04-2003, 09:16 AM
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My first choice is usually the "meldrum" clouser, it had accounted for my PB bream as well as heaps of other fish, flathead like it too (whether that is a good thing or not is up to you hehe). In real dirty water/early morning/low light I will usually go to a meldrum variant with flashabou/mirrorflash/microflash topping, this has given me the advantage a few times. In clear or shallow water first choice is a bead head BMS, esp black or olive.
Like Cole said, we've been playing around with a few other things lately, so far we've had some ok results (well I have anyway haha!!), bit early to claim reinvention of the wheel though.
Interesting that a lot of eastern states guys like charlies, they aren't used that much over here. I've found that quite often a change to a bigger fly will result in a bream, whereas the opposite is usually true with lures. I know a lot of big bream over here have whacked 4/0 clousers aimed at mulloway.

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Old 12-04-2003, 08:37 AM
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Meldrum

Hey guys,
It seems to me with every one ive asked that generally the meldrum fly has its spot in any bream fisho's box. I personnaly have done my best with it so i am very happy to tie it on. Thanks for the replys.
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Old 12-04-2003, 09:38 AM
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Wow, there are so many good bream flies it's hard to narrow down the best.

For clear salty estuary work with 5 and 6 weights on bright days would probably start with a PA Estuary BMS in White or Olive. Right at the estuary mouth, a weighted Crazy Charlie tied with a multi mix krystal flash wing and a diamond braid body in pearl.

At night on same estuary a Black BMS or Black Bream Reaper.

In deep nasty snags a Hammerhead or USD Merri Minnow in Black & Chartreuse or Black & Rust (75% black).

Along reed beads wading uper estuary, Olive or Grey BMS. At night a Black Shadow or Craigs Nighttime tied on a #4 stainless hook. A small (size #8) salmon pink marabou crazy charlie.

During winter when the river goes "tea" coloured a black Bream Reaper with bead chain eyes and small dumbell eyes.

Don't use Bob Clousers Deep Minnows much but they have their place in the fly box and get pulled out from time to time.


Short answer - PA Estuary BMS, Rusty USD Merri Minnow and Bream Reaper.


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Old 16-04-2003, 05:31 PM
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Gday Guys,

This maybe a silly question - but what is a "Meldrum Clouser"?

Also, do most people prefer a floating line for all round bream work - or would you suggest an intermediate would be the way to go - with the flies mentioned above?

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Old 16-04-2003, 08:14 PM
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GDay Chris

i saw on your website a very nice pattern a crazy charlie with two lead bead eyes and a bend in the hook. From the looks of it is crawls along the ground with the hook point sittting nearly vertical. Very Nice.

Justin,
I use a full intermediate but a floater is a good option if your starting out or the sink tips are a nice option as well. If your just starting out a floater is probably easier to get back out of the water than a full intermediate.

I personally use a full intermedate and i have a second spool with running line and various shooting heads (Floaters, Intermediates and a Sink IV). I use the shooting heads as you can change fairly quickly between the lines and go deep or go shallow relatively quickly. Also the distance of a shooting head is alot better than a full Wf line. I know the shooting head is very inaccurate but it can get close to bream country, and generally. I switch over to a full line like my WF intermediate when im casting close (20-30ft).

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Old 16-04-2003, 08:39 PM
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Justin, the meldrum clouser is just a local name given to a very flashy green clouser that seems to catch a lot of things in the swan. It was originally shown to the world in Western Angler magazine about 2.5 years ago and in that article it was called a meldrum after the guy that first started tying them (Kim Meldrum - a gun local fly fisherman).

It's really just a standard clouser, but instead of using bucktail or some other natural material, it is totally tied from flashy green (actually chartreuse) material such as shimmer flash and sparkle flash. There are a million variations of it, and it ends up looking like a christmas decoration, but seems to work a treat on dirty water fish.

Hope that helps.
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Old 16-04-2003, 08:44 PM
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Hey Jimi

Is that fly the meldrum special have the green on the bottom and a white ontop? any extra flash such as kFlash in the beard?

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Old 16-04-2003, 09:02 PM
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Stuie, The ones I've seen are tied in what I call the "slack bastard" clouser style. That is, there is no material tied under the hook (like traditional clousers), just a wing on top. A very minimalist style.

I haven't seen one with white on top, just all green. The way to tied that was reported in Western Angler involved making most of the wing from green shimmerflash or sparkleflash and then topping it off with green krystal flash.

Hope that helps

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Old 16-04-2003, 09:39 PM
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G'day bream frequent flier's

sorry bout that, these are my fav flies for bream in brisbane
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