New Daiwa

[Shortlite]

This is a fully sick reel to be released by Daiwa in a couple of months.
TD Aegis.

[Bassifier]

Daiwa.. the king of gimmics

[Rayman]

From what I've read, it seems that the T.D. Aegis is freshwater only, similiar to the T.D. Ignis (Japan).

The spool and line roller are specific for use with fluorocarbon lines. I think the spool has a greater tapering angle, from 2/3 degrees to 5 degrees, similar to the TD-Z Type R and Type R+ to suit the properties of fluorocarbon, but I'm not yet quite sure what is different about the line roller.

More information should be available on Daiwaseiko's site near or after the Japan fishing shows are over.

[nabs]

looks pretty sweet! prolly gonna cost a bit aye?

[Shortlite]

Originally posted by Rayman
From what I've read, it seems that the T.D. Aegis is freshwater only, similiar to the T.D. Ignis (Japan).

The spool and line roller are specific for use with fluorocarbon lines. I think the spool has a greater tapering angle, from 2/3 degrees to 5 degrees, similar to the TD-Z Type R and Type R+ to suit the properties of fluorocarbon, but I'm not yet quite sure what is different about the line roller.

More information should be available on Daiwaseiko's site near or after the Japan fishing shows are over.

I'm guessing magnesium alloy (Air Metal) body without the protective coating of the Luvias, Airity, etc. Type R stuff is the high end souped up components, so that Twistbuster R would probably be good. Greater spool taper? Dunno why. Fluorocarbon line specific? Dunno why. I think it'd work fine with all lines, as fluorocarbon line is notoriously badly behaved, depending on its composition.

I like the look though. It's absolutely $hit hot. Pity they can't sort something out like that with more of the qualities we'd like to see.

Rayman, where do you get all that extra info, like the spool taper and stuff? Do ya speak Japanese. I too am looking forward to what will be released on Daiwaseiko. Care to translate when it's there?

[Shortlite]

35 grand yen comes to about US$300, which is not too bad for high end import tackle. A little less than AU$500.

[TopEnder]

Hey Shortlite how r u going? 500 bucks is alot for something that's going to die a slow and painful death, full of corrosion. Gotta love the white powder build up followed by the squeeking, grinding and straining. And finally total seizure. I think I should have bought shares in Inox or something like that.

Sorry I'm bored. Looks nice though

Regards Dave

[Shortlite]

Not doing too badly Dave. I hear you on the white powder death. It's just like people dying from white powder!

Like the look, not the materials or design. Still, gets you thinking about what could be. And yes, 5 bills is very steep, even if it was saltwater proof.

Gimmicks? Maybe, but it's got the look....

[CHUNQX]

What's with the new reels these days having standout colours? The Sol is orange, the Certate is blue, the Fuego is red, the Emeraldas are green.. whatever happened to reels being metallic grey or silver with a bit of gold on the spool to indicate class?? Or spools with little holes near the bottom...
I say.. bring back the mossy green Cardinal 33 reels..

[Rayman]

Originally posted by Shortlite
I'm guessing magnesium alloy (Air Metal) body without the protective coating of the Luvias, Airity, etc. Type R stuff is the high end souped up components, so that Twistbuster R would probably be good. Greater spool taper? Dunno why. Fluorocarbon line specific? Dunno why. I think it'd work fine with all lines, as fluorocarbon line is notoriously badly behaved, depending on its composition.

I like the look though. It's absolutely $hit hot. Pity they can't sort something out like that with more of the qualities we'd like to see.

Rayman, where do you get all that extra info, like the spool taper and stuff? Do ya speak Japanese. I too am looking forward to what will be released on Daiwaseiko. Care to translate when it's there?

In Japan, the mainstream line used for light spinning rigs (fishing for bass) is fluorocarbon, usually ranging from 3lb to 6lb (with 4lb and 6lb being more popular choices - that is why Daiwa's shallow spool models are set to hold 100m of 4lb line (2004), and 100m of 6lb line (2506)). People rarely touch monofilament or braid/PE lines.

As you said, fluorocarbon is 'notorious badly behaved', and so, refinements to the spool taper and line roller are made to make the life of a FC-user a little better. I don't know how much difference is observed with the different spool tapers since I've never touched the stuff, but that's the idea behind it all. Of course, your normal spool will handle FC lines just fine, and likewise, the ABS-R spools will handle braid/gelspun just fine. I'm no expert at the technicalities to judge whether it's all gimmicky.

And I don't speak Japanese, but I am Cantonese. Some of the Japanese scripts are written in Katakana and Kanji (Chinese characters), which I can both read, so I run a website through a translator, and try to make sense of the Hiragana I don't understand. Haha.

I'll post up pics of the stuff I was talking about (spool taper on the Type-R+).

Raymond

[Rayman]

TD-Z 2506C Type-R

[Rayman]

TD-Z Type-R

[Rayman]

TD-Z Type-R+

In the lower right panel,
it says:
Compare the spool n the left ([ABS-]R spool for FC use) and the spool on the right (the nylon (monofilament) spool). To suit the lines, the FC spool employs a 5 degree angle taper, whilst 2 degrees for the nylon spool.

[Shortlite]

Cheers for that rayman.
Having seen closeups now it makes perfect sense.

So that 5 degrees thing is not just the spool, but also the twistbuster roller? Looks like it. Interesting. Looks like Air Metal is here to stay. Just wish they had the corrosion resistant finish.

I think the added taper could cause problems with braid. More friction on line coming off the back of the spool?

Anyway, still very interesting, especially the use of such light fluorocarbon lines. I remember using a German FC line for waggler float fishing. Stroft GTM. It was awesome: very strong, limp, very abrasion resistant and thin.

[Rayman]

Well, to this point, I'm only speculating. According to Plat's website, it is 'Only for a carbon line', which I'm guessing means suited for fluorocarbon. I'm just speculating that the TD Aegis will follow suit what Daiwa has done with the previous spinning reels that are 'FC-specific' (that's why I brought up the Type R and Type R+).

You can also see the Shallow Spool Exist (Steez), the Alphas-F, etc. at Plat's website here.
http://www.plat.co.jp/english/new/new.htm