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Old 06-12-2012, 02:08 AM
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Im pretty keen to buy one and suss it out. And lets face it if you want fair is fair for competition you should have set speed restrictions everyone can reach and no gulp/aquaprawn type bait..i mean lures.
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Old 06-12-2012, 02:31 AM
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a smart phone or a stero.... i dont think theres any comparason to these and a hydrowave in your boat, without sound rude i think what you have just posted is kind of completely irelevent to the argument... sorry if that sounds a bit harsh but honestly how does haveing a cd player or smartphone on your boat help contribute to your outcome. lol
Its not irrelavent because they are essentially the same sort of device - electronic device to generate sound waves. One is designed to play a sound into the water, one is designed to play sound into the air. Whats to stop a clever soul playing fish attacting noises to the fish through a standard stereo. Point the speaker at the hull instead of the air. I have done a whole 30secs of research into hydrowave so maybe there is more to than soundwaves in water - but according to the blurb "HydroWave Fish Attractant Sound System is an electric sound emitting fish attractant system" . There are speakers you can mount underwater into your pool, mount one to the leg of electric an hook it up to the stereo playing soothing fish sounds.

The music your currently playing will go through the boat hull into the water, probably not quite as efficient transfer as a unit specifically designed for it.

Whats to stop you setting your smart phone/ipod up with recordings of bait schools or prawn schools and sitting it against the hull or putting it in a waterproof bag and hanging over the side. How you record those sounds is another matter.

Do I think the way a standard stereo or phone as they are currently used will affect the outcome in a positve way - no. But with a little thought they can pretty much mimic the hydrowave. Maybe some music turns fish on and some turns them off, I don't know. Some research for people to do. Not with my phone though. Just to get totally off track I saw a youtube video of a fellow who had downloaded some fox calls onto his smartphone - put it in field playing - a fox came in and picked it up and bolted (and apparently texted his mates the next day). Animals and attractant sounds and smartphones so not totally off track.

But if you ban "Hydrowave" then just change the label and your fine.
They would have to ban a class of product - They could ban "Fish Attractant Sound Systems". Thats fine mine is a "Boat noise muffling system" or "fishing noise camoflage system".
I can't see how they can practically ban the product - even if it does seem like burleying.

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Old 06-12-2012, 08:40 AM
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and i thought i could heat up cold pizza.
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Old 06-12-2012, 06:48 PM
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Agreed, it's absolutely useless if it can't heat up some food.
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:53 PM
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This Hydrowave is typical of mankind, exploit every angle until the fish don't have a chance. Then there will be nothing left. If this system does work, the baitos will get hold of them....time for a new sport.

Technology is good, but there has to be some regulation, and if this Hydrowave does work, I think that this has gone too far. Burley attracts fish from distances far from where you are immediately fishing (and we know that it works....that why is is banned in comps), Hydrowave apparently does the same.

Gulp is a scent that may induce a strike if the lures is in the strike zone (yep I wouldn't be upset if that got banned also), scents do the same as gulp (and yes we could get rid of that also), but these have a far smaller effect on attracting fish than the perceive performance of the Hydrowave. Side imaging, you may find the fish, but you may not get them to bite. That is the beauty of fishing.

In summary - Hydrowave = Burley (attracting fish from greater distances than you are fishing), and if it is proven to work - should be banned in comps IMO

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Old 06-12-2012, 08:44 PM
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another person with some common sense /\!
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:21 PM
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This Hydrowave is typical of mankind, exploit every angle until the fish don't have a chance. Then there will be nothing left. If this system does work, the baitos will get hold of them....time for a new sport.

Technology is good, but there has to be some regulation, and if this Hydrowave does work, I think that this has gone too far. Burley attracts fish from distances far from where you are immediately fishing (and we know that it works....that why is is banned in comps), Hydrowave apparently does the same.

Gulp is a scent that may induce a strike if the lures is in the strike zone (yep I wouldn't be upset if that got banned also), scents do the same as gulp (and yes we could get rid of that also), but these have a far smaller effect on attracting fish than the perceive performance of the Hydrowave. Side imaging, you may find the fish, but you may not get them to bite. That is the beauty of fishing.

In summary - Hydrowave = Burley (attracting fish from greater distances than you are fishing), and if it is proven to work - should be banned in comps IMO
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Old 06-12-2012, 09:34 PM
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vote 1 for common sense . dont throw the baby out with the bath water.
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Old 07-12-2012, 12:19 AM
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Anyone (apare from me) actually used one?

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Old 07-12-2012, 12:20 AM
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Yes has anyone apart from Steve used one?
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Old 07-12-2012, 02:38 AM
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Anyone (apare from me) actually used one?

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I think there's a lot of people getting carried away over nothing. If 1/10 products actually worked as well as the manufacturer claimed, there would be no fish left!

Like Steve said, has anyone actually used one? I haven't but I always take these claims of "catch more fish using" with a grain of salt.
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:21 AM
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so the general consensus seams to be, that its a problem because it may attract fish to your boat and then may trigger them to bite right?

so if could shrink it all down in size and stick it inside a lure and it would be OK?

if your answer is yes - allow it, the size and form of the attractant should not matter.

if your answer is no - ban all lures, yes even soft plastics, as they vibrate & make a noise under water.

and of course I've seen one on telly so I'm and expert!
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:30 AM
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well theres no lure on the market to the extent of hydrowave and hydrowave if u knew anything about it at all... is alot different to a bit of s factor of a few rattles in a lure...
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Old 07-12-2012, 03:31 AM
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Keep it civil or this gets closed. Anyone flaming the fire will be removed.

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Old 07-12-2012, 03:31 AM
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I would not be to worried only 1 person said they would be getting one last month http://breammaster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49378

I have voted against it but i don't feel very strongly about it my only concern is that folks use it to destroy the opposition,like folks are known to swim loud rattlers lures thru areas to shut down the fish so others can't catch them in that area,someone could put it on a sound that spooks and upsets the fish and make it tougher for others.

Its probally an unfounded concern tho,,
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