Hydrowave

[zaneofishing]

again apples and oranges... s factor doesnt work over a large area like hydrowave... and s factor might have its advantages but it certainly isnt on the scale of effect of hydrowave. imo s factor doesnt draw fish from metres away or from the depths.
i honestly think at a tournament level there is to many cons as to why it shouldnt be aloud as to why it should.

[TheChief]

Originally Posted by Dell

So should things like s factor and megastrike be banned? As apparently it's ment to trigger fish into biting and people use it to mask foreign scents. Also s factor falls off easily so technically could also be used as form of burley.

Pretty much had I feeling someone would say this. All lures are designed to trigger a response in some way or another. Scent is the same. You can also add things like bio plastics etc... Well we must ban them if we are gonna ban Hydrowave right?? Well no. We can't ban all things in fishing that are designed to generate a response from a fish obviously. But there has to be a line somewhere IMO. A lure that rattles or a plastic made from biodegradable materials or a little bit of scent on a lure isn't in the same ballpark as Hydrowave.

[Madeye]

Ive been following hydrowave on the bass scene for a short time, and was supprised there wasnt that much uproar to it.

Up untill debating with Steve about it tonight i was tottaly for BANNING it.

However its still a very grey area and i dont think the grounds are there to ban it.

Do i like the idea ? No not really. Its just doesnt sit right with me,
However neither does gulp and i cant seeing that getting banned anytime soon

[Emo]

I'd be happy to ban scents and food based plastics from comps as well. These blur the lines between lures and 'baits'.

I Don't mind blokes with fast boats and HD sounders having that advantage, but if this thing does what the folk with vested interest says it does then I don't feel comfortable with it in comps.
Then again, I do have my doubts that this things is anything more than an expensive gimmick but I have never used one so I shouldn't jump to conclusions.

[ruski]

Storm in a tea cup in my opinion.

Nobody even knows if these things work or if they are a $600 hunk of plastic on the front of the boat.

Let people get them if they wish to. I won't be getting one any time soon though.

[jayojay]

Bah i wouldn't worry to much at all ,the day someone comes along and wins every comp and Is unbeatable due to having some invention that smashes bream is the day I will be worried
Bream are smarter than people think there not some dam yanky bass that wants to listen to a speaker I say keep the crazy expensive ideas coming just makes it sweater when I beat them without a 60 grand boat and 20 grand worth of crap bolted on to the boat
In no way is this cheating im already considering dressing like a bait fish in my next comp this weekend could work

[MangroveMick]

This only takes the skill out of fishing, they should be banned full stop. Next thing ya know the white bucket brigade will start buyin them and there will be nothing left.

[sexton]

Originally Posted by jayojay

Bah i wouldn't worry to much at all ,the day someone comes along and wins every comp and Is unbeatable due to having some invention that smashes bream is the day I will be worried
Bream are smarter than people think there not some dam yanky bass that wants to listen to a speaker I say keep the crazy expensive ideas coming just makes it sweater when I beat them without a 60 grand boat and 20 grand worth of crap bolted on to the boat
In no way is this cheating im already considering dressing like a bait fish in my next comp this weekend could work

nice

[Cheyne_jones]

I cant see why they should be banned, if you dont agree with what they claim to do, dont use one. I cant really see myself ever buying one, but I am not a tournament fisherman either so if I go out and catch one or one hundred it really doesn't matter to me as long as I learn something and have fun.

If you flat out ban every new piece of technology before it has even been tested we will never have any innovation in our sport... I can see a place for them in tournament fishing, and if everyone has one their is no disadvantage is there?

For all any of us know right now this thing could shut the big fish down and make the pups go mental....

[Andy J]

My opinion

I know they cost about $700 for the unit but I would prefer to spend that upgrading my sounder to a HD or side scan unit to get a better idea of what is below the surface.

Andy

[crusty]

I can't see how they can ban them.
The fishfinder/sonar in your boat is an electronic device sending sound waves into the water.

The stereo on a boat is an electronic device generate soundwaves. Whats to stop some enterprising soul sticking a speaker to the hull and having a CD of fishy sounds playing.

Have to ban smart phones as well they are an electronic device to generate soundwaves.

Then there are lures that have an electric circuit inside them.

Rattles in lures - to make sound to help get the fish to bite, same with the rattles you insert into plastic. We throw poppers to make a noise on the surface to attract fish to them.

Hydrowave supposedly will get the fish to bite. As pointed out by others Sfactor is designed to get stubborn fish to bite. Its got to go.
What about things that glow - another unnatural thing to get fish to bite.

I guess the thing thats upsetting people is it sounds a bit like berleying, But we will still need to find the fish in the first place, work out how to turn them on (I would imagine that this will be different in different places), put the lure in the right place, hookem and land them. Will be interesting to see if it does work like berley, I guess if it does then the comp organisers may have to put some thought into it.

As a plus it will be another potential sponsor for the tournament scene.

If it works it will make it that little bit harder for those without the technology to get the wins.

There's other things that I'll be spending my money on first though.
Crusty

[tomd]

My two cents worth on this is that guys with fast boats kill me, power poles kill me, until recently spot lock killed me, and I'm not a great believer in scent. (However I do use it most of the time because I figure it can't hurt)

And while Steve and I have had differences of opinion over the years I feel that his argument is sound on this point.

Tournament fishing for bream in my opinion is the F1 of fishing and as such we are a testing ground for new innovation in lure technology, scents etc. Why not allow hydrowave for testing?

Having said that, I can't see myself forking out the $ to buy a unit for the same reasons that I drive a slow boat without a power pole.

[zaneofishing]

a smart phone or a stero.... i dont think theres any comparason to these and a hydrowave in your boat, without sound rude i think what you have just posted is kind of completely irelevent to the argument... sorry if that sounds a bit harsh but honestly how does haveing a cd player or smartphone on your boat help contribute to your outcome. lol

[Onthedrop86]

My opinion has changed on these things, it looks to me as if no one is willing to fork out the dosh anyway, and who knows they even work.

[Tom Walker]

Boats give an advantage over land based... Ban boats

Give one of those Hydrowaves to me, If I can catch fish with one, you know something is seriously wrong.