Hydrowave

[zaneofishing]

hey everyone just wondering if anyone has used or had much to do with hydrowave and the effects on the fishing it was?

iv just read abit of a speel by jason wilhelm and carl jocumsen on how they both have been using this technology to great success, im eager and very interested to know if anyone else has had any personal experiences and not just what the hydrowave web page says.

If hydrowave is as good as its claiming i know there will be alot of arguments against this statement but i honestly think it should be banned from tournament angling. tournament angling should be soley upto the angler to find the fish and tune into what is going to fire them up not a peice of technology, any response on this situation i feel would be valuable



Cheers Zane.

[Doc_Hollywood]

Yep this is going to open a can of worms big time.
I was watching a guy use it on a bassmaster comp, he was getting no bites and so he changed to program of this Hydrowave and had them jumping in the boat soon after. And i have read on forums that if you dont have one dont bother entering.
So what woud be the rationale about allowing them in comps or not. We have the lure and fly only rule, and the no berlying rule. So what is putting something into the water to attract fish to your location. Berley doesnt have to be chopped up mullies or prawns as much as it can be an oil soaked rag, so the realm of a hydrophonic underwater attractant can possibly come under the definition of berleying the surrounding water to attract fish to your location.
Interesting times i think.

[The G factor]

although I have no experience with Hydrowave, it is a good discussion topic.

Where do you draw the line? One tournament angler may not have the funds to have a bass boat, huge motor, top of the range fish finder and gps etc etc, whereas another may have the latest in sounder technology and be able to sound up schools as if they were using goggles and a snorkel.

Yes "turning" the fish on is taking it to the next level, but as far as technology goes, the tournaments are already full of anglers using technology to their advantage. Anglers dont just find a good looking bank and hope there are fish on it (although some may have to), but generally they can sound it up first and the surrounding area with side scans and such.

It all just depends on where you draw the line, but tournament fishing these days is already heavily influenced by technology as far as I see it.

[zaneofishing]

they are all valid points G however i think this time this particular peice of technology has pushed the boundaries of what should and should not be accepted in tournament angling.

Yea sure you can sound up some structure or side scan a fish you can do this all day just because the fish is there doesnt mean hes going to smack the first presentation your throw towards it. we'v all had instances of seeing fish on the sounder or swiming by the side image and not touching anything, this new technology is completely different and will hugely impact the skill and technique invloved which makes tournament angling such a demanding and entertaing sport.

[Cheyne_jones]

I'd be wary of it turning them off just as easy as it turns some fish on...

In my opinion an "Angler" should be able to catch fish in all sorts of situations using their own skills/knowledge, no need for this kind of stuff.

That is the essence of the sport for me any way, half of the fun is in the finding / getting them to eat your silly little bit of plastic.

[Onthedrop86]

Nope, hate the things.. Makes me sick just thinking about it, and to think i'm only young and if they allow this stuff.. Hate to see what they allow in the future.

I highly doubt they will be allowed though.

[chrislocke]

what's next...a flathead whistle

[Vespadito]

I hear from people in the know that the ABT guys have already got them on their boats!

Seems the USA bass guys are all using them after the same sort of questions were asked a few years ago...

[Green Hornet]

I definitely don't approve of these things in comps but I'm old enough to remember people saying the same things about sounders when they first came out.

[Ratbags]

Originally Posted by chrislocke

what's next...a flathead whistle

squidgy scents

Originally Posted by Green Hornet

I'm old enough to remember people saying the same things about sounders when they first came out.

+1 GH

Interesting to see this on a US buying site:

Used by 4-time Bassmaster Classic Champion, Kevin VanDam, and top professional bass angler, Jeff Kriet in the 2011 Bassmaster Classic on the Louisiana Delta, as well as for the entire 2011 BASS Elite Series Tour. VanDam and Kriet are actually partners in HydroWave and were involved in its testing and design.


I started with worms & mudeyes and learnt a lot the hard way, technology shore takes the guess work out fishin & I'm part of the technology cult having recently upgraded to a HDS 5, I thought that just made my life easier.

Old mate used to tell me about the best time fish and all his techniques. only took him 70 years to learn them. This new age allows you to do it all instantly.

[zaneofishing]

im very against them for tournament fishing. sounders and electric motors obviously do help and to most of us are an everyday fishing essential however, they do not overly intensify like the use of hydrowave i think a vote or something should atleast be done.

tournament angling champion in my books is someone who is so in tune to the suroundings and circumstances that are present on the day and can convert as scenario to fish, not someone who turns on a hydrowave to get them pumping.

[zaneofishing]

this is 1 of the ads for it kriet and kvd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxCbv...&feature=share

[Dell]

I know Steve Morgan's been using one this year on the bream scene. Whether or not it works who knows. maybe he can answer your questions.

[forsterfisho]

Interesting topic and I think we all know the answer to it!

It will oneday be allowed in the ABT and associated events, if its not already so. 360 degree structure scan, HD sounder technologies, power poles, drift paddles, GPS controlled electric motors, high grade braided lines, scents that blur the line between baits and lures, soft plastics that blue the line between natural and manmade products.....we've seen a lot of changes in a short period of time, this will open up comps to a whole new level, so I really can't see it not entering Australia's tournament scene.

Do I agree with it? well no.

There is a big gap between sounder technology, electric motors, high speed light weight motors ect and actually re-engineering the target species behaviour.

Wheres the skill in driving around with an ultra quite 4stroke motor, turning on your 360 degree structure scan sounder to find fish, then marking each school of fish found on your interegrated GPS, or better yet make a track with your Ipilot and fish the length of bank holding fish without even having to use your footpedal.
Currently if the fish won't bite, well you swap lures...swap leaders, swap jigs, swap rods untill you find a bite pattern.
With this hydrowave technology you simply locate the fish, mark them and it appears in theory simply flick a switch into the correct rhythem and start catching them hand over fish as you have changed their behaviour and thinking to become aggressive and actively feed. Wheres the angling challange in that??

[Frithy]

I don't like the thought of them being used personally. but we might just e falling for a lot of good marketing, I'm not saying they won't work but there were the same debates about HDS sounders and how they will make it soo easy to catch all the fish and kill the sport. The same in the U.S when the Alabama rig was introduced, folks were demanding they be banned as they were marketed as something that would catch anything & everything... its well on the cards that the hydrowave will be allowed and just fall into the same 'it helps but doesn't solely determine results' category with our other technology.
anyway... time will tell