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Richo 17-11-2009 11:45 PM

What is the thinnest braid
 
Alright I ask the same questions every single year, is there anything out on the market yet that matches berkley whiplash for its thin diametre? Whiplash 30lb is 0.10mm (i think), so unless it can match that then im not really interested (although im fishing 50lb next week) so yeah, I am always looking but can never find anything so any heads up would be great.

cheers

Fishigan 17-11-2009 11:53 PM

Nope that stuffs pretty thin. 0.10mm

squidders 17-11-2009 11:59 PM

Sun Line Castaway PE, is about 20% thinner than Super PE..Don't know the exact diametre.. However it is very thin and would be worth looking at.

Richo 18-11-2009 12:03 AM

cheers all but I guess no use replying now, cause after serious thought, im sticking to what I know and what has proven itself time and time again. The ol faithful new formula whiplash

Rog78 18-11-2009 11:27 AM

That's crazy thin for 30lb? Never heard of anything that thin in that rating before not even in top shelf pe lines. Will have to check it out :).

hlokk 19-11-2009 02:49 AM

I'd take the whiplash diameter claims with a large grain of salt.

Theres no way whiplash is actually 0.10mm (thats less than PE0.4). They say they test it on lasers or something, but some quick checks suggest otherwise. If you do the calcs, it would be 17GPa, when dyneema is actually only 3.5MPa max (a figure consistent with top end thin jigging braids). If you search around a bit, berkley say that their 30lb is equiv to 8lb mono, but 8lb mono is around 0.22-0.25mm (PE2=0.235mm). So either berkley have managed to get DSM to make some super special dyneema thats 4 times stronger than any known dyneema fibre, or the diameter is actually closer to 0.23mm (ish). Hmmm :rolleyes:

Dont get me wrong, its pretty thin braid (up there with the thinnest jigging braids), but its not as thin as they claim. If it was, you'd be able to fit nearly 600m of it on a 2000 sized daiwa spool. 300m would be a pushover, so if anyone cant fit a 300m spool on that sized reel then you know the 0.10mm figure isnt accurate ;)



Richo: There are other lines out there of comparitive (actual) thickness, but whippy is pretty thin (and well priced), so if you're comfortable using that, then keep using that. If you want colour metered and smoother though...

fishyreub 19-11-2009 04:05 AM

Whiplash has been tested to break below its stated strain, thats why its so thin.

japanac 21-11-2009 12:07 PM

Here are some photos/tests, just to compare ;)

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...cture061_2.jpg

1. Unitica 1
2. Power Pro 15 lb
3. Power Pro 15 lb
4. Sufix Hydro Fine 0,19 mm
5. Sufix Matrix Pro 0,23 mm
6. Power Pro 20 lb
7. Sufix Matrix Pro 0,19 mm
8. Asso 0,19 mm

Also, whiplash is far away from thin

http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/a...sox/Strune.jpg

1. Whiplash pro 0,17mm
2. X-Force 0,20mm
3. Asso 0,19mm
4.Sufix Matrix Pro 0,18mm

cr@zy_deep 21-11-2009 08:40 PM

Whiplash is fairly thin for the rating it says on the pack. But i've found it doesn't break at that rating. I've had 30lb whiplash break at 20lb, straight out of the box, and not just in one batch, in a few different ones. It's also very rough. It's not to bad for the price though, but deffinitley not the thinnest or best braid available.

Sunline Castaway 50lb breaks at very close to 50lb and is an 8 strand braid so it's a hell of a lot smoother then whiplash. It's also extremely thin (pe3 I think).

Or if you feel like spending a bit more $$$ then you can always look at the Varvias Avani Max Power 10x (pe 3 48lb) or Daiwa Saltiga Sensor (pe 3 50lb).

thejuniorangler 21-11-2009 09:12 PM

this sites pretty helpful, http://www.pcwi.com.au/fishing/linetesting.htm

Zac 87 21-11-2009 09:40 PM

http://www.plat.co.jp/shop/catalog/p...max-power.html

awsome line, its on all my offshore reels. got 64lb on my saltiga and its so THIN.


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