Sufix MATRIX PRO super braid

[Brad Y]

Tested this stuff today. Look out for it. I was very impressed with its performance.

No springing off the spool, no casting knots, easy to tie. Same diameter as 4lb braid but of course rounder which gives the increased body feel.

A pleasure to fish with. Give it a go!

[Brad Y]

:D

[Piscineidiot]

10lb line with the diameter of 4lb braid? No wind knots, no jumping off spools, round profile, sounds almost too good to be true...

[DockFish]

And how much does all this goodness cost?

[Brad Y]

It seems that way... but i fished it and it worked really well. Not sure of the price yet, i would say its about the same as XDS.

[Bream Addict]

i just dont get why u would wanna fish with 10lb:confused: even if its diameter is the same as 4lb, it takes the fun out of the fight,jmo;)

[Brad Y]

Then why do people use XDS- its 8lb only 2lb different.

If your comp fishing, you want fish in the boat not playing games round the bottom of the river. Its just a new concept being a round braid, and it performs well. Not the problems associated with the first time use of normal fireline or sufix and doesnt lose colour.

Apparently they do make an 8lb version, but it costs heaps to produce so it wont be distributed here.

[Bream Addict]

i dont know why ppl use xds, it does sound way better all i was saying is all i ever use 4lb so it wouldnt suit me:)

[Brad Y]

Not havin a go man ;)

Same size as 4lb, i would rather fish with it than without it, especially in some snaggy systems where you gotta pull freight trains out of big logs and rock bars. I understand 4lb is sporting, but i guess i kind of made this for comp anglers who are alwys looking for the edge. 10lb line at 4lb diameter just seems way more efficient to me.

[Ultralight]

Sufix also makes the Herculine is supposedly the thinnest of their braided line up. IT is much thinner than the Matrix per their web spec.

Wonder if anyone tried it.

UL

[bushido]

Hi Guys,
This is new to Aust, made in Japan by Linesystems and was released in Aust at the trade show in August. it's REAL PE BRAID (PE meaning it braid coated with Polyetholene not gelspun).
Retails around the price of XDS, As I,m sponsored by Linesytems I won't go on about how good it is:) I will just say give it a try, you won,t be dissapointed.


Cheers Samurai

[bushido]

Sorry I forgot to mention that the shock leader is 100% flourocarbon.

Cheers Samurai

[TheJigJedi]

The sufix matrix pro line comes in 8Lb too. In my opinion it has a thinner diameter than 4lb fire line.

So far I've got my Spinfisher 8500 spooled with 30lb matrix pro and my Popper chucking Applause 7000 spooled with the 15Lb. It peels off your reel increadibly smooth. I'm yet to use a braid as good as this.

I think someone asked about the price? Its actually cheaper than a lot of lines. At first I thought it would probably suck cos it was fairly cheap.

SHANE

[Mick]

Suffix make an even thinner braid then the Matrix Pro, it is called Herculine, the only problem I found with it is you need to watch your knots when tying them and some harder leader materials aren't suitable as the thin diameter of the braid will cut straight through them.

(Bit late, Just saw ultralights post):rolleyes:

[Ultralight]

Mick,

Sounds like you have used Herculine. Mind if I ask what lb test? And did you compare the same lb test side by side with Matrix Pro?

The interesting thing is that in the very heavy strain, Herculine is thicker than Matrix Pro but in the lighter strain, the Matrix Pro is thinner.

This makes me wonder if Herculine in the lighter is more of a flat/tape shape, and they measure thickness in the thin axis.

Thanks!
UL

[Mick]

I have the 10lb in the multi colour which was sent to me from a friend in the states, I havent used the matrix Pro so I cant compare the two. The herculine is a nice line which comes off the spool well, but I have only used it a couple of times so I will reserve a decision on whether it is better or worse then other braids.

[Brad Y]

Thought i'd do a follow up post...

Used it for a while now and ive put it on all my reels apart from my capricorn. Previously i had it on one of my three affinity 100's and the other two had sufix hydro fine and the other fireline- all brand new.

Not only did it outcast both the other two imo but the knots wer less frequent and easier to get undone when they occurred. The only problem again with most fouro lines is it did discolour a little which isnt that important and it does fray when it snaps at the end (tested with a leather glove- and a big eucalypt...)

It is awesome and im going to get some eight pound stuff when i need to change them all over. No real need for 10lb i know... but its what i was given to test.

Needlsess to say im happy with it and wont be trying anything else for a while.

Get out there and get yourself a spool

Brad

[TheJigJedi]

The sufix Hydrofine line is being phased out...no longer being supplied to tackle stores. And the Sufix Matrix Pro is replacing it.

I've used the sufix hydrofine and I wouldnt use it again. Wasnt overly impressed. The matrix pro is definatly the way to go however!

SHANE

[Ultralight]

Thanks for all the responses.

I've got to get some 8lb or 10 lb Matrix Pro to check out. I just recently converted to 4lb Fireline from the standard 10lb Spiderwire that we've been using. WHAT a revelation - the 4lb Fireline casts much further and is 'gossamer' thin. It's hard to believe that the 10lb Matrix Pro can really be as thin, let alone thinner. (I did have some claim that 8 lb Powerpro is as thin as the 4 lb Fireline, but that is not even close.)

Again, thanks for this thread. Very interesting.

UL

[Shortlite]

I remember seeing somewhere that Hydrofine came in 4 lb, and was hoping it was one of the newer round profile braids.

Oh well, I guess I'm just gonna have to wait for the 8 lb Stren Superbraid.

[Nathan2003]

Hey guys, interesting topic here, just a question... I have heard that using say 10lb line on light 1-3- 2-4 kg rods can be dangerous for the rods beacuse it cannot take the strain that the much heavier line can?I have heard this can result in broken tips etc:confused: Is this true, or are you guys beefing up your rods to compensate this?

Cheers,
nathan

[Nath_18]

Na shouldnt matter to much mate. i dont know anyone that sets there Drags at 4kg. If a Bream can strip over 4kg of drag in a run Id love to see the size of it :D

cheers, Nathan

[Shortlite]

Overlining your rod will always happen when using braid. Even 4 lb braid breaks at about 8 lbs, which is outside the recommended range of a 1-3 kg class rod.

However, even with your drag set at 1/4 of the breaking strain, that is still around 1 kg of drag on a light spin stick. The drag will slip before the rod get's into a dangerous bend.

For our light gear, use the bend of the rod to set the drag. A tight drag for me has the rod bent down just past the mid-section. However, my Loomis is very beefy, so that's again tighter than a lot of other people would set theirs. We also get a lot of bigger "also bites bream lures" up here.

[NIZ]

I will be spooling my new 4000 Caldia Kix with 15Lb Matrix Pro for when I go to NZ. Will see how the stuff goes, I wish it came in bigger spools tho.

[Benrose]

Only this week i spooled my Calcutta 50b up with 8lb matrix pro. its super fine but once again iv had trouble with knots. I think i might be the problem but other people tried albrights and unis and both doubled over and no success. im getting it swapped this week.

[Shortlite]

That breaking strain braid may be a bit too thin to put on a baitcaster.

Also, when tying up, take it easy and pull up slowly. Don't forget to lubricate. Eeven braid doesn't like it dry!

Ted..

[Benrose]

as for the breaking strain i have been using 4lb fireline on it fine and never got a break off even with sizable ocean fish. i have been wetting the line it tends to look frayed after the knot is finished. then a small tug breaks it inside the knot.

[bushido]

Hi Shortlite,
I'm a little confused with your post, saying, that breaking strain maybe a bit thin for a baitcaster. I use only Calcutta 50 baitcasters for all my fishing (I hate spin reels) be it Bream, Bass or Barra, at the moment my bream calcutta is spooled with 4lb Linesystem PE braid and before that 6lb Fireline and I have never had any probs with thin line on baitcasters.
Maybe you could explain why using light line on a baitcaster would be a problem.

Cheers Samurai

[Brad Y]

Must admit ive heard a few people say 8lb will cut through leaders- even if its doubled over in the uni knot.

I will do a test when the local place gets it... So far 10lb has been fine and its the same dia as 4lb fireline so why would you want to go finer?

bushido- this stuff is finer than 4lb fireline (the 8lb that is) and i would worry about it being caught in the tiny gap between the spool and reel body if you ever get a small overrun.

Guys i can only suggest a double in leader AND braid in your knots until something can be sorted...

Will let you know by the end of the week hopefully

Aside from that it is a pretty awesome braid