vic super punts

[Bream Addict]

hi guys this might sound out there but here goes, im just posting this to see how many of u guys are interested in a super punt type competion for vic,ive been reading some of the threads in that forum and it sounds absolutely awesome if we could get something similar happening in vic i think it would rock, it would be basic to say the least, say turn up certain time/place pay ur rego fee say $20 fish for a certain amount of time heaviest bag wins and takes all cash.simple ey? i think the locations on the cards would be nong(launching diffucilties but)werribee river, patto lakes system and there is other places but i want ur feedback on how far u would travel, i want ur feed back just to c if we have the numbers atleast. same rules would apply max length-say4m no petrol motor to br used but u can have one on there main source of power is a leccy, minimum length 8ft(for safety) ok lets hear it boys and girls any feedback at all,thanks-ba.

[Conehead]

I'd be up for it but I'm mainly landbased for bream! :( Unless we could have partner's or work something out like that.

[Bream Addict]

i know ur landbased, but if we had a super punts comp u could just get a little tender dinghy and wack a minnkota on the front and that way u will be no longer landbaseed, and u wont need a partner;) , anyway ill just see what the feedback is and we may work something out, we will just wait and see.:)

[Conehead]

Ain't got that many cent's in me' wallet m8! ;) :p

Spose we'll just have to wait and see. ;)

[Bream Addict]

fair enough, comon ppl i wanna hear ur ideas

mmmmmm could be interesting,but not sure people would really wanna just use there leccys, i was talking to em the other night and was talking how i organsied a yarra sesh/comp last year some time, he recons we do it again, if money starts getting involved ur gunna have to look at insurance, but if its a social sorta thing, meet down the nong or where eva and just get a trophy engraved at the end of a few comps be more of a social type thing, learn stuff of other members, relax for a day and show some youngans the ropes.

i would be defently up for a social sorta thing but with a leccy you can only cover so much ground in a day and most likly ur gunna have 5 or so boats in the same sorta zone. dunno man whats everybodys else's thought????

cheers greg

oh good job theo for bringing this up:D

[the_fanatic]

yeah sounds good to me, id be up for it

Josh

[Bream Addict]

yeah that might be the way to go greg no cash just a trophy at the end and a bbq so we can get to know each other etc.about the just using leccys i reckon it would be ok, because there probably wont be a huge number of entrants and say a 55lb mk can pull around a 10ft pretty quick.anyway, thanks for the replies so far and pls keep them coming.

thats it man plenty of spots that we could stop for a BBQ and a weigh in, take for example canning st reserve on the nong. I think the best way might be to make a poll simple leccys only yes or no question. as most people boats are over 3.8metre and once decked out batteries, livewell etc weighs a bit and soon enough the leccy will take a bloody long time to get newhere!
my comp thing on the yarra had prizes and that but was quickly looked over when the people you meet and get to know and meet up with on later occasions.something like this would be good to fish with other people and teach them some of your tips and tricks.


cheers greg

[Bream Addict]

max length would be 3.7 just to make launching easier, ill just see how many responses i get to this then i might put up a poll

[troy-the-boy]

Sounds good. Maybe set up a few comps with an overall champ. Include places like the Hoppie's ?. Should be a lot of fun and a great way of catching up with fellow breamers.
Troy

[Nath_18]

LoL that would be a little "un sporting" of us Troy if they held a comp at the hoppies :D

Id be up to it but im not gonna drive my boat all the way to melb to enter something so small.
If it was an event like the WA super punt rounds yeah...

an 8ft size limit is a bit deadly dont you think?! By the way has anyone ever seen an 8ft tinny?!?! :confused:

I have helped orgonise small "fun-day" fishing comps were we get a few people to come along and fish for small prizes but public liability and all that crap becomes HUUGE thing as soon as you involve boats....we dont want anyone getting killed then having you put in jail......although not having you around for a while could be a good thing ;) ;) :)

Sorry for all the negativity but theres a few issues you have to think about first.

Im all up for it though!

cheers, Nathan

[troy-the-boy]

Maybe there is the option of the WA SUPERPUNTS becoming National !!. If it was run under the WABT it could create a ton of possibilities, sponsorships going National, interesting. If Ira would like to give his thoughts they would be very welcome. This would solve a lot of issues including insurance, sponsorship and the running of the comp,s. It could still be based on a social style atmosphere but with decent prizes and insurance covered. Like Nath said though even an 8ft boat is dangerous. It doesn't leave any room for complacencey or mistake. Any other ideas please put them up.
Troy

[dantheman]

Why would you bother with an electric comp if its legal to use a motor, just have a comp be it you have electric or motor, then more ppl can fish it, if thats what they want to do

[Bear]

the electric only concept is a lot of fun Dan and something a bit different. It's also designed for systems where bigger boats may struggle.

[Bream Addict]

nath, yes there ids such ting as an 8footer, its fiberglass though, yeah, im looking into the whole insurance thing as we speak.i said around melb cause thats where the majority of us live, i dont think it would be faesable fortoo many of us to drive that far for something that is just for a fun-day sort thing

dan, i said electric only so sum of us with limited funds can get involved.notyhing is anywhere near finalised, if it does happen, its going to be more super punts than a comp.

cmon more replies i know there is a heap more of u vic guys out there.

[Bream Addict]

i just thought id borrow a cupla piccys from big pete and richo from the wa super punts forum, hope u guys dont mind.this a piccy of the boat the overall winner mitch fished from-it aint gonna set u back heaps, this isnt going to be a comp for hornets etc.its hopefully just going to be a basic sorta comp.

[Bream Addict]

here u go nath, this little beauty wouldnt be all that much bigger than 8ft

[Bream Addict]

not trying to be a smart ass greg but these wa blokes who invented the punts seem to have no trouble fishing bout 12 up a round, so if we were fishing say werribee i dont think there would be any probs cause thats a big sytem and everyone has there different types of habitat that they like to fish,eg:man made,underwater structure and natural structure etc

theo, ya got a great i dea here mate, but fact has it that nath is the only person i know with a boat under 3.7metres. and people arn;t goin to be forking out money for another small boat just to enter the vic super punts. in my opinion you would be much better off having a all in get together sorta thing, just a bit of a social comp between us BM members, in just impose some sorta rule if the boat doesn't have a O/B, make ruls saying that the people with O/B's can't fish withing 500metres of the ramp or something like that and that would even things up a bit. with those really little boats it would only be a 1 person affair and there goes learning stuff of other BM members/ fishing with new people and would be restricted to talking bout it at the BBQ.


just my thoughts,
greg

Originally posted by Bream Addict
not trying to be a smart ass greg but these wa blokes who invented the punts seem to have no trouble fishing bout 12 up a round, so if we were fishing say werribee i dont think there would be any probs cause thats a big sytem and everyone has there different types of habitat that they like to fish,eg:man made,underwater structure and natural structure etc

yeah true, would just get hard in the nong becuase its so narrow.

[Bream Addict]

no that jus wanna have happen, this whole exercise is not for anyones financial gain just for fun and so we can learn:)

Originally posted by Bream Addict
no that jus wanna have happen, this whole exercise is not for anyones financial gain just for fun and so we can learn:)


yeah that exactly what u want, but with the super punts with small boats its only 1 person in a boat at once, and you won;t learn much from someone els ewhile shouting out stuff accross the water:rolleyes: !!!!!

[Bream Addict]

dude u know wat i mean, with a bbq and all:rolleyes:

ba- cheak PM

[BIG PETE]

if you guys can get this super punt thing happening you all have a great time it is great way to go bream fishing




BIG PETE

[don]

Hi guys

can only say it is good fun. It will give people,who can only be non boaters in the current comps, a chance to fish as boaters and aford a small boat them selfs and still be a part of the main competition.

We have about half a dozon people in this situation in our super punt rounds. ( one being my lady who loves it )

It gives them a chance to learn from others by watching and talking and also they learn to work out their own stratages for the comp for them selfs. Where , how they want to fish.
Instead of gust haveing to go where their boater takes them on the day.

Some of the boats in our comps cost very little with some hulls only costing $300. . A 60lt esky (for a two fish limit) with an airator and a cheap tillie stear lecy. you could have one on the water for under a grand.

Some times we travel up to 5klm from the start to find our favorite spots no probs.

Everbody keaps a check on every one and if some one hasn't made it back in time we can send a search party, this hasn't happened yet. we use mobiles if anyone gets into trouble.

All in all we have fun in a low pressure comp environment and we have new people trying it out all the time. (and winning)

Give it some thought and I hope it works for you.

[Brad Y]

Ditto that guys

Its great fun and lets you get a little exposure to comps so you can find if its what you want to do.

And a few guys in our pro tour over here like don, bear and Ira all do it because its relaxing yet still there is a chance of winning prizes and even a boat package at the end of the year.

So far my boat has cost me about $3000 and that includes the trailer im getting soon. Insurance at $87 per year for the boat, rego cost $90 and then its the cost of driving to the locations. Mine is pretty well set up and there are heaps of guys that have setups that are way simpler and work great.

The pro tour is overnighters, big boats, big bucks and pressure, the super punts is the opposite (with the exception of a couple of rounds being held over a weekend or so)

Some of our river here can be right out of the way where no big boats can get to. A quiet punt can get in them no probs. In some of these rivers, some of which we dont compete in yet, im sure there are some bloody big bream that have had no exposure to fishing.

Starting where the fish are in a group of a dozen will test your skills as you dont have a huge river to hide in and fish. We go over each others banks, drift alongside each other and whoever can get fish will win. Simple as that.

Maybe if any one comes over for a holiday, try to get to a round or hook up with one of us and try the punts. Fun, cheap and best of all its fishing.

[Brad Y]

Greg, all negative man... you gotta look at the bonuses. The best way i reckon you can learn is get out there and just do it. The get together after the event is when you share secrets etc. I know you guys would be having a ball with this type of event.

A few guys at the first round this year had 4m boats. This was fine as long as they used electric only. Some of us had outboards to weight down the back of the boats- its still okay as long as no fuel was taken onto the river that could possibly power an outboard. Maybe you should set the limits at that. Its a bit easier then as guys wont have to buy a smaller boat. Your boat would be fine. So would naths. Mine is only 10ft but i bought it for that purpose. The name super punts is really a bit false as only a few punts are in there- alot are little v hulls. Just call it the VIC BREAM Electric series and state the rules are 4m and smaller, electric only, 2 fish per angler etc. The rest of the rules are the same as the Bass electric series held on the ABT circuit.

Go on... Get it going you will love it. Even if its half a dozen mates chip in $20 each and fish for the kitty at various spots- informal etc no big thing, just get something going and build it from there.

JMO man but it up to all of yous at the end of the day.

Yatesy

[Bream Addict]

thanks brad,don and big pete, thats the message i was trying to get across,obviously i didnt do it very well;) :( .thanks again guys and keep the replies coming:)

soz boys, don i didn't realise u guyswould travel that far only by leccy power!! brad are u able to fish 2 out of ur boat? and 4m would be alight cause i alot of more people might enter cause of no having to by another boat.

i had tunnel vision before, sorry i didn't see some of the facts.

greg

[BIG PETE]

fish_man
Hill Billy Brads boat would only just hold 2 its a bit short on room with the live well in it
but you get that with a bath tub




BIG PETE

[Brad Y]

It can handle two okay just a tad comfy. it is only 10ft with a bloody great tub in the middle. I have a junior with me at the next round.

Remeber this though. Don and I have huge batteries. Mine is 130 amp hour, and its an RT55ap that i use so has plenty of grunt, and we have a small boat. That helps us travel distances we do. Others use smaller batteries so they cant go as far.

[Bear]

Some of us also carry 2 batteries just in case Brad. To be honest guys, when you think about it, the cost is no more than many other spots these days and for many of us, this IS our sport.

[User Removed]

idd be thinking about it even if we just rocked up at the way in or bbq i recon i could learn heaps then maybe if i work all hoilydays and get some money i could get my own boat imagen that.......
sounds like a great plan go for it:D

profisheryboy, did u ring aussie angler on saturday, some kid rang up about a rod his mum put through the fan, after i got off i thought it might have been u????

[Nitro_man]

Theo mate,

Remember we were talking about this the other week?

Its a GREAT idea....will talk more about it on THURSDAY at C.A and we'll see what they think!!!!

We.. could get this OFF the ground..... im in to help get it up and running!

Ben

[troy-the-boy]

I'll help out in any way I can as well. I really want to see more events/socials like this.
Troy

[Nitro_man]

Troy,

Sweet!!!!!!!!!

We will get this thing off the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jteam]

I think this is a great idea and would fish these events. I have an idea to get this off the ground without any of the problem issues mentioned in this thread. How many of you guys want to get together to throw a few ideas around ???. I have already thought about insurance and sponsorship issues and have almost covered them both. I have no commercial interest in this but would like to a part of social SP fishing in Victoria. How about it ?

Jteam

it might be a lil late, but i don;t complete understand what your saying there....

[troy-the-boy]

A get together might be the way to go. We could all get to throw differant ideas and possible problems that could arise. JTeam how do you mean sponsors and insurance issue PM some more details as well as Ben ( Nitro Man ) and Theo and any one else interested in these comps/socials happening in the land of the SP deprived. I am sure there is tons of business wiling to get behind these types of events/socials. It is never too late Fish-Boy :p :D . I'll even throw in a free Lama for you. On a serious note though I think a get together of the people interested in orgainising this would be a good start. Ideas from the others interested in helping orgainising this on a get together to get the ball rolling ?.
Troy

wow free lama!!! i'm there!

but yeah i am totally up for the social get to gether fish, me and nath organsied the yarra social bout 1 or 2 years ago and that was pretty good, and chunqx took the cofented title that day!
if its a social sort of comp is there need for insurance?
will it be boater/non boater rules taking measurements, if boat doesn;t have a livewell?
instead of everybody throwing in money for prizes for each round, why not just a lil trophy or something like that at the end of the 'season'?

this could become something really good thing to do between us breamers. But first things first we gotta work out wether there will be enough interest to make it work. So whos a boater and whos a non-boater??

i am a non-boater for the time being but come 2-3months time my sea jay will be readdy to give those breamski a caining
:D :D

cheers greg

[Bream Addict]

thanks for ur encouragement troy and greg, im looking around at sponsors at the moment, howver i havent got a straight answer on insurance, as u can understand everything hinges on that ,when i know ill get back to u.

[Drewy]

l would be keen but the 4m limit stuffs me

[Nitro_man]

Im sure we could bend the rules just for the new rig!;)

[Drewy]

it would be nice but l think the main idea of the comp is for people who can't do the bigger comps.

[Nitro_man]

True,

We're still working out idea and stuff

I can see that its gunna be a long DAY!

[lure_muncher]

but i like being landbased..........hmph...I'll travel as far as queenscliff and as far as yeerung river.....as long as theres something it for me ;) ;)

[Bream Addict]

where is yeerung river? nitro will explain insurance thingy later

[Nath_18]

Originally posted by troy-the-boy
A get together might be the way to go. We could all get to throw differant ideas and possible problems that could arise. JTeam how do you mean sponsors and insurance issue PM some more details as well as Ben ( Nitro Man ) and Theo and any one else interested in these comps/socials happening in the land of the SP deprived. I am sure there is tons of business wiling to get behind these types of events/socials. It is never too late Fish-Boy :p :D . I'll even throw in a free Lama for you. On a serious note though I think a get together of the people interested in orgainising this would be a good start. Ideas from the others interested in helping orgainising this on a get together to get the ball rolling ?.
Troy

Get you own llama I oooown this llama :mad:

cheers, Nathan

[Conehead]

hey nath,

just out of curiosity, why do you often talk about llamas? :confused:

[BIG PETE]

Conehead
Nath is a llama




BIG PETE

[Conehead]

i see. ;)

[Nitro_man]

G'Day guys,

Yes i will explain some things to you

I.e, Rules ect....

Just cant be stuff right now and i just got home from fishing!

So tomorrow it will all be up!

Cheers Ben

[Nath_18]

A llarmer farmer to be exact....

cheers, Nathan

[crabcrusher]

Do they call you the Lama because you spit everywhere?Lamas have been known to extinguish quiet abit of spit to warn off predators .. Any way happy Lamaring to all

[DAGGA]

WEll im in it as a non boater.
This will rock when it takes off!
I dunno how i can help but anything you need form ballarat way just ask!
I got another idea, how about freshwater redfin comps?
We can work on that alot later on though once this works out.

Originally posted by DAGGA

I got another idea, how about freshwater redfin comps?

ahhhhh trying to get a bit of home ground advantage eyy!

[Nitro_man]

Go the REDFIN!!!!!!!!!!


Its a good idea!

[Conehead]

reddie's and trout aren't a bad idea either.

BA, is it only bream that are applicable for the comp/s?

[Nitro_man]

Ryan,

What are you on about????

Trout and redfin comps are for later in life..........

it was just an idea that is a good one at that!

[Conehead]

na, u don't say Ben! :rolleyes:

[Nath_18]

LoL stop stealing Ira's idea's. Make it completely different to any other comp.

cheers, Nathan

[User Removed]

i have fished in a trout comp (fly fishing in hans moleman sort of speak) vic champs it was great

fishman it was me that rang i thought it could have been you. was going to ask if it was but you now didnt i still need to get that rode ficked:( :( :( :(

[DAGGA]

Hahah i didnt copy Ira!
I just figured it would be different species in a comp i could beat you with Nath ;)