Vanish - Newly converted

[yellow door 1]

I know Vanish has copped a bit of a beating in the past And I've only recently started using it. After 3 sessions with it, Ive been converted. I now join the ranks of everyone else who hates it.

The stuff is piss weak. The abrasion resistance of this junk is the worst 6lb I've come across. As soon as it comes within an inch of a pylon it DohDohDohDohs itself. 6lb that snaps in the hand while tightening the knot is something I've hadnt encountered before using Vanish. I've got some stuff that cost me $5 for 500 hundred metres at K'mart which is thinner and twice as strong.

On the plus side for Vanish it does help fool the fish and in water without snags I could see it being a useful weapon but for use amoungst the pylons, I wouldnt reccomend it.

Maybe I got a bad batch, but if this is the "improved" version I cant imagine how DohDohDohDoh the original was. The tests I conducted were in no way scientific but other 6lbs I've used can take fair beating before throwing in the towel. Vanish is the Glassed jawed rabbit of the 6lb weight class.

[BIG PETE]

thanks for that bit of info i picked some up today then put back what is a good braid to use as i have never used it on the light bream gear before

[jason]

Big Pete......fireline is the most popular I would say, but it is a gel spun.....the vanish is a flurocarbon, used more as a leader attached to the braided and gelspun lines....

I must one of the few getting good batches then as I have never had a problem with vanish....clear open or oyster encrusted pylons....? but I dont use the 6lb either, smallest I use is 8lb and right up to 20lb for the heavier stuff like kingies etc

[Mim]

Vanish is not braid...it is leader material. If you are after braid or fireline the Berkley 4 or 6lb is a good place to start...you then attach the vanish or another leader material to it.


JP and I have been using the Berkley Vanish for a couple of years now and have very few problems with it. If we are fishing really snaggy country, like down in the Blackwood River we will put on 8 or 10lb, but for most of our fishing we use the 6lb. Maybe you have a faulty packet.

Cheers

Mim

[BIG PETE]

thanks for the info guys now i have a bit more understanding

[CHUNQX]

I've been using Vanish in 4lb, 6lb, 8lb, 10lb and 20lb and I use that all the time as leaders now. I discovered early on that the vanish probably contributed to more bites and in some cases a few hundred percent more. This happenend as I was fishing with a friend who wasn't using vanish and we were using the same baits. It was just so obvious that my lines were the ones getting hit about 3 or 4 to 1.
Notice that I said bites and not landed fish and that is because of the weakness of it around pylons. Its not very abrasion resistant and the other I don't like about it is it doesn't stay on a spool very well so you can't spool up the whole reel with it but as a leader, I won't use anything else. You can probably get a better fluorocarbon line in a different brand but that will probably cost heaps more. Weighing it out, I'll stick to my Vanish for now...

[Zac 87]

ive been using ygk nitlon gfc fluro for a while now and have found it great around snags and also fairly decent for knots
it comes in 100m spools i think and costs around $20

[newbie]

Yup nitlon is the go.
Alot of gun sydney anglers use the stuff (as read from sportsfish) and alot of QLD bassers use it too. Great buying IMO. Bought vanish once and never again. And no i don't think you got a bad batch. It's all the same.

[yellow door 1]

Thanks for the for the tip. I'll keep my eye out for the Nitlon

i dont recon vanish is that bad
for the price its pretty good
ive had a 40cm bream wrap me around a pylon while using 4lb vanish and i got it and the leader wasnt that badly stuffed

[yellow door 1]

Was the pylon teflon coated:D On any brand of 4lb thats a great effort.

[BIG PETE]

Gday fellas
What other leader material or brands are good to use some of you say vanish is no good some say its great you really know how to confuse a guy help me
BIG PETE

[CHUNQX]

I don't think Vanish is all that bad either... I've landed my fair share of good bream and I've been using Vanish only for the past 2 years (or even earlier when it first came out). Lost my fair share too which is expected when fishing pylons with noodle rods (Mitchell Zero Gravity)

[phism]

i have been using 8lb vanish as a 2m leader for a while now and haven't had a single problem with it.

[panger]

I tried some of Vanish that I borrowed of a friend over 3 or 4 sessions. Seemed OK to me. Sometimes the knot would fail on testing but never seemed to break on a fish. I think if you carefully lubricate and tighten the knot this happens less. I've just got myself a spool of 6lbs to give a proper long term test.

My friend took his first 40cm bream on vanish. It wrapped the line around a pylon and was dragging line across the pylon for a good while before I could paddle the canoe in chase. It was low tide so maybe the line was underneath all the barnacles.

Also Tim Morgan and Chris Wright use vanish, it can't be all bad can it?

[Alex]

I pulled out a 40 cm bream yesterday at Docklands on 8 lbs vanish. It took me about 5 mins to land it and about 6 runs into the pylons the fish did and the Vanish leader had only a couple of nicks on the surface.
I used 6 lbs before at Docklands, but being busted a few times switched over to 8 pound. The 6 pound is way too light there.

There are some different fluoros available, but they are not that soft and supple as Vanish is.
Good stuff for the price.

[panger]

If you go by price by the metre, vanish is the most economical fluoro by far.

[beefaman]

I am using Siglon at the moment. I used to always use Vanish, but found it to be brittle in some sections.

[swoffa]

Originally posted by panger
If you go by price by the metre, vanish is the most economical fluoro by far.

Nitlon is the best value at $19 for 100m spool.

I also find it to be the best quality around, and it's a true fluorocarbon in that it's refractive index is almost identical to that of the water. :D

[panger]

Swoffa,
I'm using the Vanish Mainline rather than the leader material. Got 250m for $14. A bit cheaper than nitlon per metre.

And yes I know that nitlon is nice stuff. I like it alot, I just want to explore the other options at the moment.

[Rono]

I am with you beefman Siglon is good enough for me

[swoffa]

Originally posted by panger
Swoffa,
I'm using the Vanish Mainline rather than the leader material. Got 250m for $14. A bit cheaper than nitlon per metre.


I didn't realise that it's so cheap. It has to be the cheapest on the market.

I've only tried it from the small spools, which I didn't like. I'm told that the stuff on the 250m spools is a lot softer.

[Zac 87]

wow vanish is cheap
think ill stick with the nitlon still

[panger]

Vanish is cheapest at BigW. You'll pay more than that at a regular tacklestore. Fireline is cheap there too.

[Zac 87]

how much is a 300 yd spool of fireline a big w

[panger]

I've never seen 300m spools at Big W. They also only don't have pink fireline.

From memory I've gotten 125m spools as low as $16 when on special. I think they are usually $22 or so for 4lbs.

[Zac 87]

yeah a friend just picked me up a 300m spool of 4lb pink fireline from a big store in perth. i was hoping bm would have it but they only have 125 m spools. also do bm have bass minnows

[panger]

I'm pretty sure BM have bassminnows. They're not on the online store though.

[Bear]

Smoke red glitter in the minnows. . . . . yum.

Just call Craig: 9271 0555

[yellow door 1]

Originally posted by Alex
I pulled out a 40 cm bream yesterday at Docklands on 8 lbs vanish. It took me about 5 mins to land it and about 6 runs into the pylons the fish did and the Vanish leader had only a couple of nicks on the surface. .

Did you get any picks - we took the boat in for a sniff around on saturday and found the Docks area pretty tough. Not many hook ups and lost most of them. I didnt get one in the boat until I switched to 4kg mono.

[SWANK-E]

Nitlon is the go! I bought some when i was in sydney and it's so bloody good!

[TheJigJedi]

I tried the vanish and wasn't a big fan either. I've been using the Suffix Invisiline lately and have had no troubles with it so far.

[Alex]

Yellowdoor,

It is tuff at Docklands, but plenty of fish. You are using a 4 kg mono which is about 8.8 lbs. If you use a 8 lbs fluoro leader you can do better then with the mono, especially from the boat. Try to cast and retrieve your lure along the piers/pylons, not into the pylons. This will increase the lure presense in the striking zone.

Good luck.

Cheers,
Alex
P.S. Will try to post some pics from the last outing

[yellow door 1]

Thanks for the tip Alex. Might try out the 8lb before writing Vanish off completely.