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rodmy
31-01-2003, 06:12 AM
Got a copy of breamin 1, largely a waste of money, 80 % irrelevant if you want to learn how to improve your fishing, some nice scenery but largely its shows guys siiting at a table talking or anglers weighing their catch, seen one weigh in seen them all.

The squidjie vidoe is good value and so is "Bait,Lure and Fly fishing for Bream" but avoid this video (breamin 1)

I am a qualified workplace trainer with experience in making instructional materials.

tBreamin ! could be condensed to 40 mins, watching is guys catch fish might be ok, but a lot of people want to learn how to catch their own.

Mick
31-01-2003, 06:35 AM
I think the average punter will get a lot more out of the breamin series then the squidgee video. To learn from a video you dont need people hand feeding you info. The breamin video contains a wealth of info, it shows the areas that produce fish, it shows how the pros work the area, the lures, rods and reels that are used are easily identifiable.

The squidgee video is an advertisement for the product, nothing more, nothing less. From watching the video one would assume that if you dont use squidgees you wont catch fish. The product is very good but the video is crap. This is no criticism of either Starlo or Bushy as they are both experts at what they do, but in this video they are salesmen.

If you want to see an ad for blue fox get the squidgee video, if you want to see bream fisho's in the heat of battle go with Breamin.

torvic
31-01-2003, 09:27 AM
I havent seen any of the breaming videos, though I'm sure it'l help indefinately. If you've never seen anyone catch a bream on artificials you've basically no idea how to do it (me!). For all I know I could be retrieving it too fast or slow or whatnot, at least when you see someone you have the basics of the technique which you can work on later.

mike_mad_fisho
31-01-2003, 08:39 PM
gday guys
i have not seen any one them except a bit of the squidgee one but would like to get breamin 2 or i can go down to my mates tackle shop and tell him toput the video on and i will just watch it there lol
thanks michael

cody
31-01-2003, 10:05 PM
Gday

I havent seen any of them either but have heard theyve helped many anglers catch their first Bream on a lure.

pete s
01-02-2003, 12:57 AM
watching fishing vids, reading mags and talking to your lts guy is all about knowledge. you try what you learn and if it works for you then you keep using it. not everything works for everyone :)

if you dont like your breamin vid, see if a mate wants to buy it off you:)

Evan
01-02-2003, 02:01 AM
i totally agree with mick. i thought that you can learn far more from the breamin vids than youll ever will off the squidgy vid. the squidgee vid seems to me to be one for total beginners- it teaches you how to tread a squidgy on a jig!!!! also the majority of the fish caught are flatties.
i think you begin to appreciate the breamin vids more, after you have fished for a while. i find you also start to single out certain techniques each time you watch it.
i highy recomend the vid!!!!

pw-bream
01-02-2003, 03:10 AM
I watched Breamin 1 today and I found it interesting and mostly good. Some sections like the weigh-ins were repetitious, but on the whole the pictures and discussions were quite instructive. I have Breamin 2 also but haven't watched it yet. What is it that make the producers think all fishing video watchers want country music in the background?

torvic
01-02-2003, 03:43 AM
Haha dont tell me theres country music in the breaming videos!

I love watching fishingwa, but I laugh every time they put that music on. I mean...really, that shouldnt be classified as music!

:D

mike_mad_fisho
01-02-2003, 04:08 AM
gday

i need to get me one of those breamin vids cause i have most of the mags its good to see it on video.
thanks michael

rodmy
01-02-2003, 06:34 AM
I still say that there is too much table talk, and not enough instruction.

I agree that the squidjie vdo is not perfect eg does not discuss suitable tackle etc, but it teaches you about how to move your rod and where to cast.

johno13
01-02-2003, 06:42 AM
Is breammin video 2 more instructiional than no 1 ??

my finances at the moment may stretch to buying one video but possibly not 2

thanks John :confused:

torvic
01-02-2003, 08:34 AM
Hey John I'm in about the same position, so I might just get one also. If I ever get it at all maybe we could each get the one of them and swap em around sometime.

About the breaming videos, it cant possibly be worst than rex hunt :p (Rex is a waste of time but the other 2 guys that take teh 2nd half of his show are alright).

Big Muddie
01-02-2003, 07:17 PM
There are some interesting comments in this thread.

I have both Breamin videos as well as the Squidgy video.

I do not rate any of them as instructional videos - they are either entertainment (Breamin I and II) or promotional (Squidgy).

Having said that, there are many things to be learned from them - it simply takes some observance and then practice of the techniques that each of the anglers uses.

I wouldn't hesitate to recommend these videos to anyone. They are highly entertaining (including the table talk) and they have a hell of a lot of valuable information to be gleaned.

Quite frankly, I would rather be entertained by videos than instructed by them. If I want instruction then I would seek that personally rather than by video.

Breamin I is good value - both as entertainment and as a source of many effective techniques in using soft plastics to catch bream.

Breamin II is perhaps not quite as good as Breamin I.

Squidgy Secrets is also good value.

pw-bream
02-02-2003, 01:36 AM
I think Big Muddie is spot on with his comment that Breamin 2 is not as good as Breamin 1. For a start it contains quite a bit of repeated talking from the two "organisers" that was already in part 1. It also seems to contain less clues and educational footage. And it has more of that twangin' hillbilly music ;-)

Now I just need to somehow get to see the Squidgy Secrets video.

I got the other two from the library in Geelong after making a "Request for item not held", they went out and bought them both and I got to borrow them first. So now anyone else in the Geelong area can borrow them too.

mike_mad_fisho
02-02-2003, 04:05 AM
gday

i agree rex hunt is still going on about that the rod is a shock absorber and it is used as an extension of the arm

steve and bushy should take that show off him or start there own show on lure fishing.
thanks michael

Evan
02-02-2003, 04:14 AM
mike: steve and bushy actually made their own series called hooked on adventure- based on fishing in WA. quite a good series

torvic
02-02-2003, 06:31 AM
Yea I liked their series. What ever happened to it, have they stopped permanently or just in between series?

pete s
02-02-2003, 07:03 AM
your bang on the money big muddie.....breamin 1 and 2 are not intructional vids....and i found them certainly entertaining :) ....especially when adam royter and starlo fish together :D

Captain
02-02-2003, 08:14 PM
Okay guys as a avid watcher of both breamin 1 and 2, I think they are a great watch and tool in checking out different techniques.

They do teach alot and while there are parts that ain't that great (Parmi Passage torny) it was really only intended to show a few rounds of the ABT torny and how it worked.

With that said I still learnt and still learn alot, it was never meant to be an intructional video, but it was so good people started to use it as such.

The "squidgie" video is great but just a big add, the most they teach you is how to rig a soft plastic and a few different techniques, fine for starting out.
But if you want to refine your skills and technique the Breamin series is GOLD.

Cheers
Captain

Ravin
02-02-2003, 08:30 PM
I go along with Big Muddie here. I own breamin 1 & 2 & I enjoy watching both of them. Don't regret buying them at all.

kevinnugent59
02-02-2003, 08:55 PM
Anyone wanting to sell their Breamin 1 or 2 videos, I could take them off your hands.

Kevin

Dave W
03-02-2003, 02:53 AM
Everyone's been making some good points here, and there is valid information to be obtained from all three of these video's - even if it is just from observing how other guy's fish.

One thing I've got to say is that if you can watch any or all of these shows and not want to go fishing immediately then somethings wrong - I love watching a video that makes you want to get out there and do it........ kinda like another type of video:rolleyes: :D

Cheers,

kevinnugent59
07-02-2003, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by pw-bream
I got the other two from the library in Geelong after making a "Request for item not held", they went out and bought them both and I got to borrow them first. So now anyone else in the Geelong area can borrow them too.

pw, did you need a reference number or isbn # or anything to order them?

I'm off to my library tonight and might see of I can order them.

Kevin

07-02-2003, 12:14 AM
My local library jsut orders them and whoever put the request in, gets to watch it first!
I bought BreaminII thinkin it was informative, as that is all i'd heard about it. I was rather disappointed when i watched. Although, when watching for entertainment, it is pretty good.
If you guys want info, do what i and many others have done, and get the Bream Bible from the Online Store!

Dave

pw-bream
07-02-2003, 12:14 AM
I didn't have that info, but it would have simplified the library staffs task if I had the details. I just gave them the correct titles and specified that they were fishing videos.
Good luck :-)

kevinnugent59
07-02-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by kingpin
If you guys want info, do what i and many others have done, and get the Bream Bible from the Online Store!


Already very creased and well used, bud. I had that book well before seeing this web site. :)

Kevin

07-02-2003, 12:24 AM
Cool
Its an awesome read. I can't put it down!!!:D

pw-bream
07-02-2003, 12:27 AM
It is a good book, I've read it in the book form about four times, another library resource :-) I've also got a lot of the content as photocopies of a series of magazine articles that appeared prior to the book being published. It came out month by month with many of the same pics, etc.

LakeConjolaFish
07-02-2003, 12:56 AM
Squidgie secrets is a good watch if only because Starlo & Bushy get on so well.

It is a advertisement but theres some great fish caught and the scenery is great..............enjoyment value yes.

Bream Master
07-02-2003, 04:22 AM
Originally posted by Captain
Okay guys as a avid watcher of both breamin 1 and 2, I think they are a great watch and tool in checking out different techniques.

They do teach alot and while there are parts that ain't that great (Parmi Passage torny) it was really only intended to show a few rounds of the ABT torny and how it worked.

With that said I still learnt and still learn alot, it was never meant to be an intructional video, but it was so good people started to use it as such.

The "squidgie" video is great but just a big add, the most they teach you is how to rig a soft plastic and a few different techniques, fine for starting out.
But if you want to refine your skills and technique the Breamin series is GOLD.

Cheers
Captain

You hit the nail on the head Captain. None of these video's are instructional, in fact both the breamin tapes state that. They are clearly footage and techniques of the 2001 B.R.E.A.M series. That being said, how you couldn't pick up rigging and retrieval techniques from them I don't know.

I have learnt heaps from both Breamin 1 and 2. Don't just watch them once and say "that didn't teach me anything", watch them over and over. Each time you will pick up something new.

Believe me, if you watched an instructional tape, you'd be itching for the guy to show you a couple of fish being pulled out. I watched a fly casting instructional tape over and over and it absolutely bored me DohDohDohDohless.

Warren.

SWANK-E
25-09-2003, 06:18 AM
warren, what's the word with the new breaming videos i see in the shop (ie, the Andre Georgescu one)??