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mike_mad_fisho
21-01-2003, 10:18 PM
gday guys
i was just surfing the net and found this ut has nithing to do with bream i just thought i might show u all it weighed 139 kg the website is http://www.freedive.net/feature/pickering_record.htm
thanks michael

mike_mad_fisho
21-01-2003, 10:21 PM
gday here is another one

torvic
21-01-2003, 10:42 PM
Dude thats disturbing. Spearfishing just aint cricket

But then again it is a mighty feat for a human to conquer such an animal of that size, especially in its own territory (in water).

Its not much different from hunting animals, but hey I find it disturbing anyway

mike_mad_fisho
21-01-2003, 10:44 PM
gday torvic
i dont think fishing is fishing unless u have a rod and a reel
thanks michael

LakeConjolaFish
21-01-2003, 10:47 PM
Yeah Dudes ( I like that:) ) I find it all a bit disturbing as well.
There hosting the NSW Spearfishing Championships at Mollymook near where I live in a few weeks.

I reckon catch & release is a bit hard to practice ! Maybe they use rubber pointed spear tips :p

I suppose each to his own, as long as they don't tally up cricket match sized scores of dead fish.

Bear
21-01-2003, 10:54 PM
That's not fishing, that's butchery.

Sorry guys, but this is just not sport or anything to me. Especially with a Tuna that big. Wonder what happened to the meat.

I reckon a better challenge would be to get close enough to tag the fish. Now that would be a great effort.

Bear
21-01-2003, 10:56 PM
If you want to see some great underwater shots, check out wetpixel.com

These guys have a great life.....

mike_mad_fisho
21-01-2003, 10:58 PM
gday guys
yeah that would be a challenge getting close enough to tag the fish
thanks michael

Stuie_02
21-01-2003, 11:22 PM
Hi Everyone

Nailing a tuna that size is a reciepe for disaster as a tuna doesnt have a swimming bladder. That is a tuna can swim straight up, down, left right no problems (this is why tuna dont stop swimming and high metabolic rate).

That tuna could of taken that spearfisherman right to the bottom if the fish decided. Tuna move at a great rate of knots think its somethin in the order of 60 to 70% of their weight is muscle.

I thinki will stick to flies, lures and plastics

Cheers
Stuie

beefaman
21-01-2003, 11:59 PM
Be better if the fish dragged him around the ocean with a spear hanging out of him. That would be good to see.

BUT, imagine hooking that fish on 4lb fireline spin gear. Waterskiing here we come!!!

mike_mad_fisho
22-01-2003, 01:15 AM
gday guys
that would be funny to see .
soory to birng up the subject but i thought that the tuna was huge to be taken on a spear another catcjh was a striped marlin .
i personally think that it is pretty bad to cathc such a big fish on a spear and there is no way to release.
i spose in some of the comps that people fish with 8 kg line and they catch some nice tuna and end up not realeasing the fish because the fish is too exausted from the fight to swim away.
thanks michael

matt_mad_fisho
31-01-2003, 08:48 AM
Hey guys

has any one here ever spear fished before......i have tried it before and it is very hard. but i wasnt trying to catch 300lb tuna and marlin i was trying to get coral trout and crayfish i didnt get one and they were evry where:(

cheers matt

Tambo
31-01-2003, 06:05 PM
I'm amazed they got away without any sharks coming to say "hello", maybe they shot them too.
I had a mate that used to go spearfeashing off the seal rocks at Phillip Island. Given the population of great whites in the area I thought he was a total moron.

mike_mad_fisho
31-01-2003, 08:27 PM
gday
my dad and his dad used to go spearfishing when my dad was a kid for kingfish in new zealand and he has ppictures of heaps he has caught.
thanks michael

torvic
31-01-2003, 09:08 PM
Originally posted by Tambo
I'm amazed they got away without any sharks coming to say "hello", maybe they shot them too.
I had a mate that used to go spearfeashing off the seal rocks at Phillip Island. Given the population of great whites in the area I thought he was a total moron.

Hehe your exactly right about the sharks. CLick on the link I had a read of the story, they say usually the sharks are there swimming around them at a great distance. One however came and kept coming, so the diver was forced to shoot him point black in the head.

pete s
01-02-2003, 01:16 AM
uuummm...yeah...not exactly fishing is it?? ok so there is a fish involved but c'mon. :(:(

the only credit i can give is to the guy for holding his breath for 2 minutes

not picking on you mike but is using a handline fishing?? i think so

the name should change from spearfishing to spearhunting

Tambo
01-02-2003, 02:02 AM
Speaking of things that aren't fishing. A guy I know works for the CSIRO as a marine biologist, he's just come back from spending time studying bycatch on prawn trawlers. Apparently for every kilo of prawn there are 25 kilos of bycatch, now of the 25 kilos 85-90% dies on the boat. Now that's whiting, turtles and even bream all dead.
I've nothing against the fishing industry in general but surely anyone can see that long term these practices will lead to their own destruction.
As for the spear fisherman, why don't they take up archery? I'd rather have the fish swimming than shot.

Evan
01-02-2003, 02:11 AM
come on guys ive done a bit of spear fishing and it is extremely hard, for example try holding your breath swimming down 10m in free diving gear, settling on the bottom and then trying to find a fish to go after, then putting a spear in its head to kill it without damaging the flesh??? bet you cant do it :D ;)

as long as you only take what you need it is a very effective and selective way to get a feed of fish.:)

pw-bream
01-02-2003, 03:12 AM
Prawn trawling is an appaling environmental disaster, scallop dredging in Port Phillip Bay was also quite disastrous, thankfully that has been stopped or severely limited now. We just need the govts up north to do the same about the prawn trawling.

torvic
01-02-2003, 03:57 AM
Evan I would agree. Although I'v never spear-fished before I reckon it would be pretty hard. And spearing that big tuna and 'landing it' could have only been pulled off by experienced spear-wielding diver peoples like that guy.

Although it is a shame to see such a big fish shot in the head....

mike_mad_fisho
01-02-2003, 04:04 AM
gday guys

in one of the gamefishing tourny we got all the berly from a trwler that trawles in moreton bay we got about 2 44 gallon drums full of berly and most of it consisted of small flathead small trevally prawns and bream. i was disgusted at all the fish that is put to waist, in the comp we were fishing for tuna and we sat behind the trawler and there were heaps of longtails of about 20 kgs, the guy on the trawler was cathching them on rope with a huge hook and thats not fishing we were using eight kilo now thats fishing.

thanks michael

SWANK-E
01-02-2003, 04:41 AM
wouldn't you guys think that spear fishos are better than the commercial means of harvesting tuna? the environmental consequences of such practices is a lot worse than a guy trying to combat a tuna in the water.

i don't mean i support spear fishing, but give them some credit!

bubble
01-02-2003, 08:16 PM
I was chucking some lures around the Seaway on the Gold Coast yesterday and just as I was packing up this bloody great oogly came up and gave me the once over. The first thing I did was sit down....less chance of falling over that way.
There were a number of kids swimming back from the North side of Straddie surf boards in tow, I mentioned the shark and shadowed these guys to the other side.

You will not be getting me swimming there......

Bubble.

PS. Lots of hammerheads around the Seaway at the moment.

bluefin
01-02-2003, 10:28 PM
This photo creates more questions than answers!
If it was shot with a conventional spear gun, you would need an instant kill, not easy on a fish that size, otherwise it would tow you all the way to NewZealand!!!!!!!!!

So how was it taken? Power head? 1000 mtr of cord attatched??

Each to his own I suppose!

mike_mad_fisho
01-02-2003, 10:54 PM
gday guys

did u get any fish at the seaway bubble. ans what lures were u using.
thanks michael

matt_mad_fisho
03-02-2003, 02:49 AM
G'day every one

i dont meen to be mean or any thing but what do u all have agaist spearfishermen? they arnt nearly as bad as the pros and trawlers! ok say you went game fishing and hooked on to a tuna of that size most likely it would die anyways cause it would be so egsorsted (i think thats how u spell it) from the fight and as long as you keep what you need it is ok.

I cant stand all the pros and trawlers i think there should be rules about where they can and cant trawl, ecpecially not in moreton bay, thats just not right. And the pros up north are absolutely hammering the great barrier reef. do you know how much live trout are worth to japan.....$70 per kilo and they re worth even more dead. there is hundreds of tonnes of reef fish sent over seas each year and i hate it, there is just no fish left. but i think it is realy good about all the new rules and regulations on the reef fish up there it will realy help and it is also good to sea there are alot more national parks too

cheers matt

mike_mad_fisho
03-02-2003, 03:53 AM
gday matt
they do have some rules about when they are allowed to trwal and a awile back some of the trawlers got there licenses revoked .
thanks michael

matt_mad_fisho
04-02-2003, 07:30 AM
ya true

but like tambo said there is still 25kilos of bycatch every time a trawler goes outif they went ouot every day thats 175kilos of fish and sea life wasted, think of how much is wasted every yr, it realy makes yoou think. that bycatch could be bream flathead whiting tailor crabs turtles ect ect and most of it dies in the boat its just such a waste it shouldnt be happening especialy not in places like moreton bay and the logan river.... those 2 places are easy acsess for recreational fisherman and are heavily netted, soon there will be no fish left. ITS JUST NOT RIGHT!

matt

bubble
06-02-2003, 03:59 AM
Mike_Mad_fisho,

I was actually using livies.....have picked up some nice flathead and amberjack. There are heaps of fish at the end of the North Wall. Best to get there early 4am before the Charter Boats leave the seaway.....
Livies are both left and right out of the seaway. Have to pick your weather.....Sunday looks a go at this stage.
I have seen guys pull fish on all sorts of lures, Jigs, plastics, shads etc.

Bubble.