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ashley
30-01-2004, 03:06 AM
has any one used poppers on bream as i have one its about the same size as a scorpion 52 but it is double jointed and it is a fairly old lure and if so is there any time where bream more readily attack surface lures or is it whenever
ROADIE
30-01-2004, 04:06 AM
all poppers will work on bream at the right time of the
day i reckon. Ive found fizzers to work best and they dont have to be small up to 7cm still get smashed.
Any guys interested in buying some poppers should pop (sorry..LOL) into Breammaster store and check out the new range of small poppers availiable for breamin...
They are goin quick though guys...
Dave
Have you tried them out yet (the SMAK"S) they look great.
or has any one else yet (in wa.)
Hey Don...
Not sure if guys have used the SMAK skywalkers yet from here, but some guys have been using poppers in recent weeks with some success.
Its all pretty new here, but when we all suss out our techniques, im sure it'll go off.
Some of the new poppers are so sexy...:D
rodmy
30-01-2004, 06:18 PM
I am most eager to some poppers can u advise me further ? What brands does breamaster have? what is good?
big mumma
30-01-2004, 06:55 PM
ashley,
the best time and/or place to use surface lures is anywhere where there is cycadas. the prime season being now as the cycadas hatch from there shells and drop from trees. this is what the bream wait for. early morning and late arvo seem to be the best times and especially if you can cast up under trees into shadows.
cheers
wingala
30-01-2004, 07:37 PM
"Poppers Rock". If you haven't tried them yet. then you are missing out on a riot of fun. Best results are dawn and dusk with water temps above 20 degree and air temps 27 degrees.
Due to the inconsistancy of accurate casting, I have resorted to making my own cheap and quick lures from old boogy boards or best of all thongs (flip flops).
Get yourself 1/2mm gal wire cut a length of 70mm or so. create a loop at one end with a wee treble in the eye. Either get a hole punch or use a thicker thong. Cut a cylinder around 20mm wide x 30-40mm long. Thread the wire through the guts of the rubber cylinder. create a loop at the front end for the obvious, then you are away.
you may need to refine the boogey popper by hanging hooksntoys off it. But in essence you have got something that will disturb the surface, float and at a sensible budget price.
Trials in Queenscliff lagoon have brought good results.
Including, Yellowfin Bream, Flathead, queenfish, big eye trevally and giant trevally (yes folks there are weird things in Manly lagoon) There is nothing funnier to see a lizard leave the comforts of his sea bed to nail a bit of thong in a metre deep water column.
ashley
31-01-2004, 10:54 AM
thanks and now i have more ideas of how to make my own at a size i like
DAGGA
31-01-2004, 06:29 PM
Has any one seen the home made lure in the bream bible (bream on Lure and fly) ??????
Bushy has made a surfase lure out of a bit of dowle excuse the spelling the things you join wood with by glooing them into each piece:)
Well you drill a hole through the middle of one of them (just got some off my uncle and he had the machine to line it up all correctly)
But they werent goin in straight cos the drill bit was bending as it was going through and this is importent as i found out later.
I put em in a glass of water and noted how they floated and if you drill the hole into one right in the middle and it comes out on the edge on the other side you put the head there becease then you know where the eyes will be and if you dont you could have eyes coming out the top and one on the bottem
(if you dont get what i mean just ask me again and ill try to explain it in detail)
Only problem is getting a hook to stay down one end but this is what i do i feed the line though the dowle to a hook (your choice) and tie a knot then i tighten the line and put a bit of tooth pick in the front to act like a wedge.It works but i dont like the idea of the tooth pick cos if you wanna change in a hurray it gets anoying and leave a bit of tooth pick sticking out cos you wont be able to get it out!
Ipainted mine up with :rolleyes: Nail Polish :rolleyes: Which my aunty supplied!!!
she had a box full so i whent sick hahahaha ill post the pick of some when i can get them small anough.
One problem with the nail polish its smell is really strong even after it dries:( but im thinking of rubbing some eco gear scent on em????
DAGGA
31-01-2004, 07:12 PM
ok heres all the ones i have made soo far, There was nail polish that was clear with sparkles and i thought Bute! cos it gave off a real nice finish.
DAGGA
31-01-2004, 07:17 PM
the 3 on the left are my faviroute ones especially the white one!(havnt gotten a fish on em yet but they havent had much testing at all.
notice 2 on the right have feathers well i put them in with fireline and nail polish over it. and the black with pink eyes glow and the other one where the pink is also glows
wingala
31-01-2004, 08:47 PM
Top work Dagga!
Deluxe is the best word for your enthusiasm and attention to detail. You certainly have the addiction. A thought I had regarding the nail polish smell would be to buy a small fibreglass resin kit.
They cost around 20$ paint your lures with the resin and it will extend their life and hide the smell. Try mixing glitter in the resin or painting the feathers in. If you ran trace wire through the plug then it will solve your toothpick dilemma.
If you haven't used it before. OBEY THE MIXING INSTRUCTIONS.
otherwise you will have a small fire to extinguish
DAGGA
02-02-2004, 03:08 AM
Thanks wingala
That stuff sounds like something you would put in a bomb lol
Ill have to go and buy some for sure not jut for those lures.
i will check the fishing expo down here (Bushy is gonna be there!)
but if not ill go to a fishing store
Cheers
8footugly
24-03-2004, 07:45 PM
Originally posted by DAGGA
ok heres all the ones i have made soo far, There was nail polish that was clear with sparkles and i thought Bute! cos it gave off a real nice finish. Great work Dagga. That little orange number on the far left is by far your best. Mate it looks exactly like an Attack Minnow!!! Brilliant!!:D
DAGGA
25-03-2004, 01:53 AM
Yeh its a shame i dont really use them much. I gotta start trying them out on the redfin and the trout.
Thanks
I've been using the Skywalkers for a little while and I'm starting to get some success on them. In the ideal feeding conditions, when the bream are hungry, they work well. What I have been testing them on though, is draggin them around snags at low tide. This seems to entice the bream along until the lure hits an open area and they come up and smash it.
Got the idea from prefishing the Murray b4 mega-bucks and just starting to refine it.
Lots of fun seeing them come up out of the water.
wandtheswan
25-03-2004, 08:43 PM
When the Walpole comp was on, I noticed right up the Frankland River that the bream were right up on the surface. I tried a bills bug and after awhile once i got the speed right I started getting attention from the schools of bream. Man watching boils right up behind your lure is such a buzz. I stopped muckin around and used hardbodies after that cause all I wanted to see is what bream do with a popper on the surface.
interesting new area of fishing for bream.
Artsy
14-04-2004, 02:20 AM
If you want to drill a perfect hole through the Dowl (sp?) the best way is to get you hands onto a lathe. Doesn't matter if its a wooden or metal one. Put the Dowl in the 3 toothed chuck thing that holds your metal or wood and put a chuck in the stand with the right sized drill bit. And drill away..
CHUNQX
14-04-2004, 02:36 AM
If you guys are catching bream on these, I have to say, "I'm not worthy to be on the same page as you or even chatting with you! I'm not worthy!" I have problems getting bream to bite my SCENTED WIGGLY soft plastics on 4 lb fluorocarbon!
Artsy
14-04-2004, 02:47 AM
ME to.. I can catch pretty much everything else under the sun on Lures. Soft Plastics and Hard Bodies but still no Bream.. Hopefully our time will come soon CHUNQX
DAGGA
14-04-2004, 02:54 AM
Yeh guys i know what its like and i only got my first Bream this week after about a year of trying!
I also have gotten a fare few other fish on lures but i can tell you its a real relief getting your first Bream!
They say the first is the hardest then after that its smooth sailing "heres hoping"
Keep trying thats all i can say............
CHUNQX
14-04-2004, 03:05 AM
I have caught bream on lures before but they're like 1 in 1000 casts! I've mentioned before that although my bream catch rate is pathetic at best the hours I put in trying with SPs didn't go to waste because when I used it on other fish in other locations I catch fish pretty much first cast! I was at the Whitsundays on my honeymoon with only 3 small tackle boxes (6 compartments each) with SPs and they got used up after only 2 days fishing and they weren't even half days fishing as you can imagine being on your honeymoon (consider me lucky to even have a chance to fish!). I caught heaps of coral trout, emperors, parrotfish and they chewed up all my plastics. They were only small but that could be because I was using the ones I'd use for bream in Melbourne. I tried to replace them at the tackle shop at Airlie Beach but the smallest they had were 3 inch Atomic Paddletails! The rest were 5-7 inch shad types or bigger. Geeez, they must catch monsters there!
wingala
14-04-2004, 05:38 AM
My best reults with poppers have been at night. As soon as I hear the baitfish jumping and plopping about throw the lure into the school. The trick is patience. The bream seem to miss an aweful lot but once they start to have a go, it's only a matter of time.
Artsy
14-04-2004, 05:01 PM
Do bream only go for theback of the Popper?
If they are also going for the middle of the Popper it wouldn't be hard to put another hook on the bottom of it..
The only thing I can think of is that the Popper Might spin in the water which would cause the hook on the bottom point straight up in the air. But im guessing the weight of the hook might be enough to keep it stable
beefaman
14-04-2004, 10:30 PM
I have been using the River 2 sea buggy pops for great success on hightide around the mangroves and over weebeds. The bream really do miss a lot though, and I have found a slow constant retrieve with the rod up high is the way to do ;)
d_golem
14-04-2004, 11:46 PM
hmmm breams miss the poppers a lot, eh? understandable given the size of their mouths. can't really compare to those largemouth american bass with those huge-ass-bucket-of-a-mouth which is the initial fish lure manufacturers trying to get with the poppers. I wonder if our local lure companies might start making lures specially targeting breams.
Smak already have one they developed with Tim Morgan called the SkyWalker. very different surface lure to what is around at the moment.
d_golem
15-04-2004, 03:35 AM
I looked at the Skywalker at the SMAK site. looks pretty ordinary though, compared to River2sea ones, but if it catches bream, then I'll buy ^^. Does the breammaster shop sell it?
Artsy
15-04-2004, 03:52 AM
Those poppers look quite good.. And qutie easy to replicate as well and look simular to Dagga's except for the hook and line locations
d_golem
15-04-2004, 10:41 AM
I just remembered in my bass fishing game in PS2 there's some cool surface lures in there. here's a picture of one with the propellers
d_golem
15-04-2004, 10:51 AM
and another one with metal thingies that vibrates on either side of its head. It makes a hell of loud clicking sound. I think this one will be a good bream lure
sick game!! d_golem
wat's the title???
The only fishing game I have on the PS2 are LakeMaster EX and Reel Fishing 3. They're both pretty average. My best game is the Trophy Bass series that I have on PC.
Artsy
17-04-2004, 08:17 AM
Was reading through the "How to catch bream on lures and flies" again this arvo and Bushi put a propeller on the back of his.. Has anyone made one before with the propeller? If so what did you use to make the propeller?
zimeric
17-04-2004, 08:50 PM
the lure you are wondering about with the fins on each side that makes loud clacking sounds is a Heddons crazy Crawler
ive got one but never caught much on it (bream or otherwise)
the fins always get stuck and then the lure just acts like a sea anchor!
my fav is the tiny torpedo also by heddons and ive caught a heap of other ifsh fish on buzzbaits - (like a topwater spinner bait)
maybe if they made a really small buzzbait it would effective for bream but the tiny torpedo is apparently dynamite for bream
d_golem
18-04-2004, 05:38 AM
the game was Sega Bass Fishing Duel. It was the sequel of the sega arcade game which has a real fishing rod that u can move around like real! I dunno if u can find it in australia (but I think I've seen it here in perth somewhere).
zim, what's the tiny torpedo looks like?
cheers d_golem
found them at Electronic boutique for the PS2. Pretty arcade like but the Trophy Bass Series is the best fishing game so far.
geoff_abrams
18-04-2004, 11:02 AM
a lot of people take the propellor off , and you end up with a smak skywalker type lure , pehaps thats where they got the idea from .idont know if that changes ther catch rate i think ill test that out with a cheaper i wouldnt want to wreck the blades on my heddon:rolleyes:
Elrick.M
15-06-2004, 09:14 AM
I remember playing some fishing games with pappy. I think it was Bass tournement or something anyway it got really annyoying because every time you got a fish on this DohDohDohDoh music started and this guy would do a voice over. He would say FISH ON!!! wow Don't let Go!!! Thats a keeper.:p
d_golem
15-06-2004, 09:16 AM
yup that's the one, elrick ^^ it's a pretty fun game though ^^
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