Changing jigs or to hard bodies

[AtomicGrant]

When changing rigs, I usually just cut the line and re-rig on the same leader until it gets about 40-50cm is that ok?

[Kris]

Heya, AG
I don't see why 40 -50 cm's is bad but i always try and keep my leader around the 1.5 m mark.
I fish area where its basically just full of barnicle crusted pylons and everyfish i've caught takes me around at least one(as i'm usually fishing from the shore.)
I also use a fly clip made by mustad which stops the problem of tying new knots each time i throw on a new lure.These little clips are pretty cool ,dont change the action of hardbodies and are fine for jigheads!
anyway i think leader size is personal and representative of where you fish ie.round flats,pylons,leases,rocks ect.
hope to help,
Kris

[Dave W]

Originally posted by AtomicGrant
When changing rigs, I usually just cut the line and re-rig on the same leader until it gets about 40-50cm is that ok?

That's the reason I start with a fairly long leader - at least 1+ rod lengths.

If you get it a bit nicked or snagged you can just tie on another jig, without having to re-do the while thing.

I can get though most of a session that way.

[Craig_S]

Yep, I'm with Dave there. Tie it on a bit longer than you really want - nothing worse than stopping mid session and deciding you need to tie a new leader.

[Richo]

I start at around 2-2.5mtrs and then use it til its down to around a metre or just under, then tie a new one on. Loose a few jigs here and there, a couple of hard to soft changes and you`ve lost nearly a metre or so. Just depends how much you enjoy doing knots. But at least 2 metres to start with.

Cheers

Richo:p

[AtomicGrant]

richo- I do enjoy doing knots for some reason. The uni knot is the way to go, it is used from my fireline to mono and leader to jig :)

[Bear]

Seems like I'm the odd one out so far. I don't use leader and go straight to fireline using a no.1 Shogun clip. Not lost a fish so far to freyed fireline.

That's one of the reasons I use a slightly softer rod. Let the rod do all of the work, not the leader.

[kevinnugent59]

Originally posted by Bear
Seems like I'm the odd one out so far. I don't use leader and go straight to fireline using a no.1 Shogun clip. Not lost a fish so far to freyed fireline.
not the leader.

You don't worry about the fish being able to see the fireline, Bear?

Kevin

[Bear]

The Shogun clips I use are fairly small and black, which seems to be an advantage. So far in the comps it hasn't made a huge difference and the same around Perth waters.

You guys have got me thinking, might give it a try on my spare rod to see if there is a difference.

Still, 2.24kg at the Albany comp tells me it can't be too bad. Still, I'd be curious to see how many of the guys above me use clips.

[Bear]

Wouldn't you know it. After all the talk I deceided not to use clips for the first time. I fished with Richo who deceided to use clips for a change.

I missed out and he landed one. Go figure :mad:

Hey Bear I use clips most of the time. I like to swap my hardbodies around a fair bit (untill I start catching them) and a clip make it heaps quicker, but then if I stick to a certain lure I loose the clip. I caught all my fish in Albany with a clip on the leader. People say the it affects the lure's action but I have only found a few brands to do this (no names on here)

I use about 1.5-2m of leader but I have a spare spool with a leader on it so when I loose a rig I wack it on and bingo, fishing again in no time.

Craig C

[Bream Master]

I'm the same Craig. I start with approx 2 metres of leader and carry a spare spool with a leader already tied on. I am considering looking at some clips though, as I tend to change colour patterns fairly quickly until I find one that works. retying a lure knot several times is a pain in the ass, and it shortens up the leader fairly quickly.

What clips do you use guys ???

Warren.

[Strewth]

Originally posted by Bream Master
I'm the same Craig. I start with approx 2 metres of leader and carry a spare spool with a leader already tied on. I am considering looking at some clips though, as I tend to change colour patterns fairly quickly until I find one that works. retying a lure knot several times is a pain in the ass, and it shortens up the leader fairly quickly.

What clips do you use guys ???

Warren.

Warren

I use "no knot fast snaps" that I shipped in from Cabelas. These are very strong stainless fly clips that are ideal for softplastics and small hardbodies. I use the medium or large size and have never had one let go on a fish or during a cast. Their tiny size and light weight makes them ideal for bream fishing. I wish someone would stock them here!

Cheers

Scott

[luringbream]

I usually just cut the lure off, check the line for any scratches and then tie another on.

DAN

[Ravin]

I use about 2 meters & use it down to about a meter or so. I don't use clips myself as I haven't seen any I like but I would give them a go if I saw a suitable one.

[Ravin]

Since my post above I have tried some Mustad fly Clips & they work fine. They are very small & strong & do not affect the action of any of my lures. I tested a heap of different lures in my pool as well as softies & these did not appear to affect the action at all. A mate in Sydney gave me the URL of Cabellas which sell a snap of similar design which looks OK as well. He has used the medium size & reckons they are fine. Here is the link if any one is interested.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/product/standard-item.jhtml?id=0011851110700a&navAction=push&navCount=5&indexId=cat20293&podId=0011851&catalogCode=ID&parentId=cat20293&parentType=index&rid=

[bluefin]

I have been using Mustad fly clips for years, One spot I fish has Tailor up to 2 kg explode on the surface in the deep water in summer so a quick change to a metal lure ensures a bit of fun!!!!
I only use 2 kg line with a light drag, don't know how they would go with heavier drag settings????? They also rust a bit, to get around this problem I just go fishing more often!!!!!! :cool:

[cody]

Gday

I always just use the clip part of a size 8 snap swivel (whatever you call them) this doesnt seem to spook the fish by any meens even when using 2" soft plastics.

I used Mustard Fly hooks (Thats what the label says, really fly clips) last Sunday landed several fish to 40cms with out hassels.
I tested the largest clip using 4.5 kg line attached to both sides, the clip opened slightly just before the line broke and then closed completely (The clip didn't open sufficiently to allow a lure to be inserted/removed).
I previously used the smallest crossover with no problems.
I only use half a meter of flurocarbon as a leader, and still seem to catch plenty of fish, usually find the knot rattles thru the guides and cuts down distance to much (Probably my poor casting style).
Bear where do you get the Shogun clips.
Scott where do you get the "No knot fast snaps" from.

[Strewth]

Steve

As mentioned in the post, I shipped my Fast Snaps in from Cabelas in the US. EJ Todd now imports them here - they are available in some East coast tackle shops - but they are 3 times the price I got them for. Doesn't matter too much I guess, as I lose very few of them (unless I'm fishing racks). Mainly stick to the large size, as the mediums can be fiddly to open with wet hands.

Strewth/Scott

[breamreaper]

Hi there,
I havent used clips for years because i didnt trust them.
but lately my fishing mate has been using a clip called a "italian snaps" and caught heaps of bream over 40cm on them and not had a faliure due to a clip so I have started to use them to and they are great. unless you get wiped out your leader stays at the same lenght no mater how many times you change lures in a trip.
and there so small they dont change the action of small lures like orgees and the like.
cheers,steve.

[pete s]

any chance of a pic steve??..or a link to a pic??

[breamreaper]

hi there,
yer i can take a pic but it wont be till tommorow.
they are in my ute with the rest of my gear and my missus has taken it to work.
stay tuned......:rolleyes:
cheers,steve.

[Simon]

I've given a few of the mustard fly clips a whirl and have actually sraightened the Aberdeen hooks before the clips let go (on snags not fish). the clip needed a little closeing with pliers but they didn't open enough for the hook to fall out.

and at $4.50 for a mixed bag they work fine for me


Cheers


Simon.

[mark savage]

I've been using these small clips for years trout fishing and have just recently found them while down in Busso. I have rarely seen them in Perth.
Berkley make these ones: They're about 6mm long and quite strong. Typically your knot will fail or the trebles straighten before the clip fails.