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Madeye

13-01-2011, 10:41 AM

Ahhh i remeber the days.
Back when tornment breaming was just getting started. Thinking to myself "i wish i could get sponsored" imagining sleeping on a bed of lures... well you get the idea.

I used to wonder "what do i have to do to get sponsererd"
There has been a bit of talk around latley about sponsorship and what is expected.
Now the shoe is on the other foot. And now i am the one looking to market my products through sponsering events and anglers.

Well for all you young budding angler here is MY VEIW on what i would look for/ expect when sponsering an angler. I am a drop in a large sea so my veiw will vary from the big guys but im sure the principles are the same.(not speaking for anyone else or trying to rub anyone up the wrong way).

Rather than thinking what can i get out of getting a sponser you need to think "what can they get out of me". Sponsership works both ways. Its all about marketing. As sad as it is fishing is a business and companys are looking for the maximum $$$ for thier outlay. But remember if there was no money to be made no one would get sponsered.
One way of looking at it is that you are a living breathing advertisment paid for in product.

Number 1: Win comps. Its a real shame i am placing this above number 2 but its the way things work. If you get up on stage and say you one comp X using lure Z every man and his dog goes out and buys that product. However dont think that because you cant afford to enter all the comps you will never get sponsered.

Number 2: Catch fish .I would love to have this as number one but its a close second. You know it amazes me how much time people spend talking about going fishing (forums) but very rarley do much fishing. Get out there catch fish and then let others know about how you went. Nothing like reading a good report. Dont worry if you didnt catch and monsters not every trip ends in 40cm fish. Its often all the other days that allow you to catch that horse. Dont let me confuse you though. You will need to be catching big fish to stand a chance but posting about any trip will win you browny points.
Also liven up those posts. Some of the best reports i have read arnt of big fish. Writting "went out today caught 3 30-38cm 1 42cm and lost a monster" doesnt allow us to see and feel you passion and thats what a company will be looking for. Example of a post with no photos and no fish but still a great read http://www.breammaster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34845

Number 3: Post pics. This runs hand in hand with 2#.A picture paints a thousand words but it can also sell a thousand lures. No use catching fish if no-one knows about it. Not just any pics either but quailty photos that make you wish it was you holding that fish.
Check out some of drors photos (hope you dont mind) http://www.breammaster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34220
These arnt monster fish but they make we want to run out grab my rod grab some of thoose lures and hit the river .
And please dont post pics with the background blured out. For one they look like crap and 2 they dont make people want to go out and buy the product . If someone see a big fish caught with X lure at X spot they will want to go out and buy that lure and try it there. We all catch fish we dont want others to know where .If you have caught a stonker at your secret spot take the photo so there are no land marks, do head shot, keep the fish close to the water so thats the only background.
Really want to get browny points. Send your pics to the company in question. Tell them they can use it in thier gallery/promotion

Number 4: be a nice guy. What is with all the agro latley. Seriously guys i dont understand all the hate flying about. We are all here because we love fishing. So why are there so many threads getting closed due to fights.
Although lower on the list if you were sponsered by me and i noticed you ebing rude to others i would drop you faster than a sack of bricks.
Be helpfull to others. Remeber there was a time when you didnt know everything you did. It amazing what a little bit of kindness can do. I am in debt to my neighbour who taught me the ropes. His willingness to help me had payed divendedns with free trips on the boat whenever im out, rods and reels when i upgrade and i share any info i have.
By being a nice guy the company that sponsors you comes across in the same fashion.
This works in reverse though. There is one company i refuse to by product from because of the way a sponsored angler treated a friend. Even though i know this product is very effective i refuse to be accociated with it.
You dont have to go out teeling every tom dick and harry your seccret spot. It can be as simple as showing someone how to tie a new knot. Or pointing out a good bargin you saw. You would be amazed if you knew who was watching these forums
Dont talk yourself up. Nothing worse than someone who loves them self. I dont care if your the #1 bream fisherman in the contry if you act like a tool people will treat you like one (like that spade i keep out the back for shoveling dog...). And by listening to others you will also learn more and become an even better angler.
I bought a sounder from one onf the top 5 tornment anglers in the contry. I didnt realise it was him till after. Yet he was the most down to earth guy who had no heirs about him. Let me tell you he is worth every boat/car/rod/reel he gets given.

A new trend i am noticing that is bugging me is people questioning others reports. Who are you to say Bob didn't catch ten 40+ cm bream under said bridge. You must have been there right????
It wasnt that long ago that small cameras wernt around to take pics and yet people still caught fish and posted about them without photos.
Im not trying to brag here. But i have caught many large snapper. Unfortunatley i dont have the pics to prove it. I always forget my camera or am to excited and forget to take a photo. I dont see the point of taking a photo once i get home as i know i caught it and dont need to brag to anyone about it. Even if had taken a pic i would never post it as land marks can be used to find my spots and dates can also be used for info. However this doesnt mean i havnt caught any just because i dont have a photo.
And what does it matter if he is lying. Its not like his lies will cause money to fall from the sky into his lap.
If this continues no one will ever right a report without pics because no-one will belive them
You should be greatfull for any info. If you dont belive it, read it and shut up.

Number 5: Belive in your product. Dont take stuff for free just because its offered to you. This will only end up hurting both parties in the long run.
If you belive in your product this will show when you talk to others and make them want to buy it. Dont expect a sponser to be happy with you if they find out you very rarley use their products. However this shouldnt mean (my veiw) u can only use there product and no one has a product for EVERY occasion. I do belive it should be your "go to"

No 6. Age; 2 fisherman simalar tornment placings, helpfull posts on forums ect one older one younger. Older person wins every time. Sorry guys but few people are humble enough to take advice from someone much younger than they are. But if you meet all the critera above the issue of age can be over come. If you get rejected because of your age. Dont get down heartned. If you keep up the good work you will be imposible to ignore

Number 7: Dont lie. If i sponser you and happen to use someone elses product dont lie and dont substitute my lure for thiers and take a photo. A company is built on reputation and if people suspect you of lying you will destroy that repuation. You never know who is watching and its easy to lets secrets slip in the heat of the momenet.

Hopefully this gives you a little insight as to what a company is looking for. Maybe now you can see there is alot more to it than sleeping on a bed of lures.
The best way i can put it is
Do it for the love and not the reward and if you do the rewards will come witout you even seeking them

Happy fishing

Madeye

13-01-2011, 10:57 AM

On a side note. Dont belive you need top quality gear to be a top bream fisherman. WA angler of the year winner uses a rod worth under $100

cowancreekdave

13-01-2011, 11:07 AM

Great post.. agree with it all but from a non-tournament angler's perspective, sponsorship sounds like a commission-based job. Probably a lot different if you're already in the comps, placing well etc. but somewhat off-putting for someone on the outside of the scene contemplating tournament angling and the subsequent gunning for sponsorship. I guess a reality check here and there can do no harm.

Madeye

13-01-2011, 11:22 AM

Comps arnt the be all and end all. But they are very important.
If your already doing the next 6 things MAYBE someone will snap you up and organise for you to reprsent them and pay your entry fees.

Commision based........No.
But like i said it not just about sleeping on a bed of lures.
I have already offered sponsership to one angler i highly respect however he declined beacause of many of the reasons you are eluding to.
I still hook him up with free plastics though as he does a great job promoting my lures even though i dont ask him to.

The more i think about our relationship the more i like the idea. Rather than sponsering anglers i might just "reward" people that i feel have promoted my products.
IE if i see a nice photo posted i might send over some freebies.

phil jagger

13-01-2011, 06:02 PM

Alex

13-01-2011, 08:39 PM

Number 1: Win comps. - Check!
Number 2: Catch fish . - Check!
Number 3: Post pics. - Check!
Number 4: be a nice guy. Check! (ask my wife:p)

Number 5: Belive in your product. Check! (I am about to sell 95% of my lures that don't start with "D" and "P")

No 6. Age; Older person wins every time. Check! (old enough on the outside, buyt young at heart)

Number 7: Dont lie. - That's a difficult one. Even the best in the business are not a 100% but still are sponsored :rolleyes:

Where do I sign ;)?
Cheers,

Chamelion

13-01-2011, 08:49 PM

Where do I sign ;)?
Cheers,

I was under the impression you were already sponsored. :confused: Learn something new every day.. Can't be long now, surely? :cool:

ar-elbers

13-01-2011, 09:10 PM

On a side note. Dont belive you need top quality gear to be a top bream fisherman. WA angler of the year winner uses a rod worth under $100

On my First comp we managed to get in the top 5, at that stage I had a collection of about twenty hard bodies, half of them baby Vibes, lol, and four packs of soft plastics. My rod and reel combo would have been about $250 all up, which I still use. I have got to say it was a bit daunting when Ben pulled out his lure bag and then on top of that I saw his collection of rods and reels :eek:.

We had heaps of fun and got along well with each other, I have been lucky enough to join for him most other comps since then. So don't be afraid to enter because you have not got the latest gear or sponsorships most of them don't. Just get out there and have some fun.

Saying that this year I am hoping I can pay off my Stella in time for Feb. Hopefully I get a bonus from work :D.

Alex

13-01-2011, 09:25 PM

I was under the impression you were already sponsored. :confused: Can't be long now, surely? :cool:

No mate, I am not sponsored as an individual angler.

Our Vicbream Classics team "Damiki/Pontoon 21" is sponsored by Searing Tackle. Rob takes great care of us, (thanks Rob!).

But when I fish ABTs I enter as a non-sponsored angler as there is no formal agreement between me and any other tackle company/sponsor (I am not complaining, very happy with how things are now. I am bit old to worry about things like that).

However, the other (younger) half of the team is sponsored by Searing Tackle. - Just wanted to clarify.

Cheers

punchanello

13-01-2011, 09:53 PM

I would like to put an open offer out there to any potential sponsors.

I am without a doubt a rank, blow-in novice but will fish my bum off at any given occassion in any conditions to pull a Bream.

The greatest advertisement any of your products can have, is that they can help this hack with a rod, turn in to a reasonable angler. Think about it. It proves nothing that a pro-angler plugs bream on your gear. But me landing a 35cm+ pan is nothing short of a miracle.

:D:D:D

All offers welcome. PM me. :cool:

bender

13-01-2011, 10:02 PM

thats honesty for sure....:D

ISS A SQUID!!!!

13-01-2011, 10:13 PM

great post

Fishigan

13-01-2011, 10:39 PM

Great post MiSh, I like the way you think.;)

seamonkey

13-01-2011, 10:53 PM

Number 1 - Learn how to spell "sponsered".

Will help you every step of the way. ;)

Bear

13-01-2011, 11:10 PM

adidaspeteman

14-01-2011, 02:06 AM

Great read MiSh, I like the way you think.

I saw some of your sp's last saturday when meeting up with some yakkers and stink boaters on the Murray, they look tasty!

forsterfisho

14-01-2011, 03:37 AM

Thats a very interesting read and thanks for making note of my photo-less report!

I think the main thing I think to becoming sponsored is to be likable and approachable. I personally take great pride in talking to a few kids, or adults at the local boat ramp when they check out my bream-styled kitted out tinny, wondering what the different things are and how the lures work. I've often taken time out from my day to show people how to rig a soft plastic or work a lure properly, and its a great feeling personally when they walk away with a smile on their face. by the way, im not sponsored so I have no commercial gain in this...I just like to help futher our sport.
The online forums are a great way to spread the word of a certain product, and I agree totally with the comment about not slagging other people or products. Everybody has a different way of doing the same thing; wether it be tying a loop knot to a lure clip, or a blood knot to a split ring.

I still remember watching the weigh in of the megabream at Forster before I got into bream on lures thing and talking to an unknown angler for about an hour about soft plastics, he didnt push any one product, just went out his way to help out a newby to the sport. I like to try and repay the favour whenever I can.
.....I'm a good teacher arent I pigdog...I got you ya first bream on the surface:cool:

reddog2

14-01-2011, 03:57 AM

Number 4: be a nice guy. What is with all the agro latley. Seriously guys i dont understand all the hate flying about. We are all here because we love fishing. So why are there so many threads getting closed due to fights.
Although lower on the list if you were sponsered by me and i noticed you ebing rude to others i would drop you faster than a sack of bricks.

So True :D;);)

Norto

14-01-2011, 04:23 AM

A mate and I have just started in the bream comps and it was a case of we are both competetive, myself in particular I love Rugby league but when I played I was luck to get a run off the bench, still I showed up to training every day and showed up to the games and occasionally I would fall in front of someone and they also would fall over, tackle count would still go up by one so I didn't care, fact was I was enjoying myself. Now I am too old and fat to do that but I have always loved fishing and so has my mate so we got together and we now fish some of the bream tournaments ( or should I say we will fish some of them as we have only been to one so far) we showed up there in my little 1980 Quinny with a 40 horse on the back and, well lets face it ,it was the oldest boat by far but never the less we got talking to some guys and they didn't care what sort of boat we were on as it's the fisherman that catches the fish not the boat. There were some snide remarks from guys that were sitting in $30 plus thousand dollar boats but Don and myself were there for the atmosphere of the tournament and to see if we could catch a fish worth weighing. As the records will show we ended up with a big donut but we learn't a heap and thats why we are backing up for the second round of the BETS on Sunday at Lake Macquarie. So fellow bream fisho's if you are worried about the gear you have or the boat don't be, cause we have rod and reel combo's luck to break the $150 mark and an old boat and we are in it, and lets face it if no one else will talk too you at the tournament because of your old boat or the not too flash gear, have a look for us in my old Quinny cause we'll have a yak too ya.;)
Regards,
Norto.

Brad Y

14-01-2011, 05:44 AM

Might also be worth diverting your attention away from the tournament scene and more onto the media one. Ten fold more people read magazines than follow what's going on within the tournament scene.

So hooking up a fishing photojournalist would be an even better way to go.

Phil

I would hook up with you phil but your wife would probably not like it.... nor mine. So sorry Im afraid our relationship just cant go any further.

boris

14-01-2011, 06:03 AM

yes for the most part,
and young boys and girls don't be afraid.
I only turned 18 about 6 months ago and yet im sponsored but i have worked my arse off for Cranka pushing there product everywhere i go and i have complete faith in there lures.
i've taken other BM members out fishing with the shads when they came out and i always post up quality fish and send the pics off to dan and steve.

And im always up for a chat anywhere and anytime.

cheers
Boris

phil jagger

14-01-2011, 06:19 AM

I would hook up with you phil but your wife would probably not like it.... nor mine. So sorry Im afraid our relationship just cant go any further.

Well that sucks...and I can't find what you're looking for re: computer stuff...Sorry..I hope we are still friends.

JC93

14-01-2011, 06:23 AM

Great post, alot of good info.

jayojay

14-01-2011, 06:25 AM

In all honesty i got into the tournaments a while ago and loved it but have been away from it for 3 years or so, back when I started me and my mate were the only young guys and felt pretty out of place in company of all the sponsored anglers but we places pretty good and had an awesome time, Im hoping to get back into it this year so keep an eye out berekly ;)

Brad Y

14-01-2011, 07:34 AM

Well that sucks...and I can't find what you're looking for re: computer stuff...Sorry..I hope we are still friends.

Its ok I still like you and dror. Just not as much as dowelly now. Me an him goes together like peas and carrots

BlackBreamer

14-01-2011, 08:53 PM

It's about being consistant i would look more at it this way, winning 1 comp on x lure wont make me run out and buy it:rolleyes:... I'd look who's most consistant and getting good bags, what lure? Then go buy a few... Not just someone who lucks onto a good school of big bream in one comp on lure x...I don't care for sponsorship im not into it but for those who are it's a very worthy title.... You don't even need to be a great fisherman you need to be a smart fisherman think outside the square, at the end of the day most of the time it's about matching the hatch and presenting your baits correctly / colour choices........... Good luck with ya quest and to whom ever becomes sponsored give it all ya got.....:cool:

Dan Walter

14-01-2011, 09:05 PM

My question is, unless iv been living under a rock which I probably have, what are mad eye lures, not seen nor herd of them till now?

Shortytheyakker

14-01-2011, 09:20 PM

Madeyes are popular with some of the top local anglers in W.A including our Angler of the year, they are a state secret and we don't want to many folks getting there grubby hands on them and rapeing the bream population. :D

(they are designed and made in W.A ,oh and they are a soft plastic infused with coffee)

Madeye

16-01-2011, 06:09 AM

On my First comp we managed to get in the top 5, at that stage I had a collection of about twenty hard bodies, half of them baby Vibes, lol, and four packs of soft plastics. My rod and reel combo would have been about $250 all up, which I still use. I have got to say it was a bit daunting when Ben pulled out his lure bag and then on top of that I saw his collection of rods and reels :eek:.

We had heaps of fun and got along well with each other, I have been lucky enough to join for him most other comps since then. So don't be afraid to enter because you have not got the latest gear or sponsorships most of them don't. Just get out there and have some fun.

Saying that this year I am hoping I can pay off my Stella in time for Feb. Hopefully I get a bonus from work :D.

Well i just proved my own point. Alex and myself just won the albany bream spectacluar. I was using a daiwa exceller with a pefluger trion. and probably only used 4 lures for the comp.
Even with a sticky drag i was still able to land fish. So dont feel that you cant fish with the big boys if you dont own $500 combos and a tackle box jam pack with $$$ lures.

Also the team that came 3rd was fishing out of a 12ft tinny with a 15hp outboard.

Madeye

16-01-2011, 06:27 AM

This can be a dangerous line to take as I, and many others, like to know any associations when comments are made. As we should.

Product for comments is not something I would like to see encouraged.

JMO.

Dont see how this can be dangerous. It really quite simmilar to some of the photo comps that are run on this and other sites .

Any sponsorship COULD be dangerous.
Im not "encouraging" an angler to use my lures because i sponsor them.
How hard is it for a sponsered angler to get up on the podium if they have used another product other than their sponsor.
Or what if your fishing in conditions where the only way you can pull fish is to use another product that is desinged for thoose situations. While your sponsor might be ok with this what does your non-boater think or what will they tell others.

No mater how you do it there will be thoose who will be dishonest just to get some free gear. Its a sponsors job to sift out these and reward only thoose trully deserving.

Bear

16-01-2011, 07:35 AM

Dont see how this can be dangerous. It really quite simmilar to some of the photo comps that are run on this and other sites .

Any sponsorship COULD be dangerous.
Im not "encouraging" an angler to use my lures because i sponsor them.
How hard is it for a sponsered angler to get up on the podium if they have used another product other than their sponsor.
Or what if your fishing in conditions where the only way you can pull fish is to use another product that is desinged for thoose situations. While your sponsor might be ok with this what does your non-boater think or what will they tell others.

No mater how you do it there will be thoose who will be dishonest just to get some free gear. Its a sponsors job to sift out these and reward only thoose trully deserving.

Yes, but it isn't a comp is it. You're suggesting you're going to give away product to those who post on BM with your gear. Dangerous free for all. JMO. I'd rather see the effort go into a comp where it's all open for all to see.

Again, JMO.

Brad Y

16-01-2011, 08:02 AM

While your sponsor might be ok with this what does your non-boater think or what will they tell others.

Who cares? Its all fishing at the end of the day. I use lures other than zipbaits and I use rods other than nitros. I will be open about that. I dont care about other peoples opinions on my sponsorships and you will find 99% of other anglers wont either. We all try to use our sponsored gear where possible, but im not going to use a lure or rod to please the general public or someone on the back of my boat. I will use them where, when and how I want to. I know I dont have big $$$ deals that can affect my income or my way of life, but at the end of the day I believe in the products that Im sponsored with and if I need to go outside those products then I have the relationship with my sponsors to be able to do so.

For the record the easiest way to get sponsored is the get some solid and consistent results behind you, get a good reputation amongst the people you fish with and against, dont be afraid to ask but at the same time dont ask for the sake of it and be willing to do some work for a sponsor- like Phil said, you should look at being close to media and be willing to give your time up for demo days and promotions.

If you started this thread to figure out people you want to sponsor or what sort of values you want to look for in a sponsored angler then I think you really need to step back and look at the bigger picture of promoting your lures. After all its just fishing and people do it because they want to fish not because they want to get sponsored (well most do anyway). I suggest you take a good look at the anglers who can offer you something and not just win every comp. Cranka lures really have thier sponsorships sorted. It comes from years of angling experience from Steersy I believe, who will know the value of being sponsored, but also that a good angler cant rely on one product all the time. The best sponsors around will stand by thier anglers if they use thier brand or not. Im not sponsored by cranks in fact Im sponsored by Zipbaits, but I believe the way they go about things and develop a relationship with their anglers is the right way to go.

Well done for winning albany, I struggle to get 2kg bags out of that place even though its a great place to fish. Today when I was pulling in giant trevally, mangrove jacks and fingermark I just couldnt help but think gee Im glad I didnt drive to albany.

Bobby Bass

17-01-2011, 02:38 AM

Sponsors want to sell lures and breamers want to go good in tournaments. They pretty much go hand in hand.

I moreso agree with the results method, if you can do well in comps with 90 boats filled with 180 anglers, people will respect the angler and back the product he is using. I dont agree with rewarding posts with sponsorship as they have more chance of being doctored.

I dont know your lures as I have never used them, the most important thing is to make good lures that catch bream consistantly, so many companys make lures that just dont appeal to bream. Bottom line, If I got up there and won a few bream comps and a company that made lures that dont produce consistant results offered me sponsorship, I would definately decline, No one is wrapping my boat with a brand that hasnt produced the goods for me, its just a lie in my opinion.

Not having a crack at your lures, never seen them, never used them, if I seen them in the shop I would buy them if they look the good and have the right depth range. I dont trust most sponsor brands as there is so much dodgy behavior these days

Just my opinion, hope I didnt step on anyones toes

Madeye

17-01-2011, 03:34 AM

I can agree with some of the comments. And brad has given me alot of good advice to think about.
however i cant see what you have against rewarding a post. I understand your issue with doctoring but how is this any different to a photo comp?????

In a photo comp the users vote on the best pic. Where i can choose to reward thoose who i feel are deserving, taking into all the things i listed before as well as the quality of the post/photo.

Dont worry about treading on my toes. Most of you who have posted have had FAR more experience in the bream scence than i have. Anything i can glean seasoned vetrans is extremely helpfull and helps me understand how to go about things.

Like i said im very new to all this and a VERY small fish.
However my main aim is to make lures that catch fish. Hopefully the rest will fall into place :D

Shortytheyakker

17-01-2011, 03:39 AM

To the young guys out there who think getting a lure sponsorship will be their dreams come true from the limited things i have seen i would tell them its not a bed of roses.

Most of the trouble in bream land stems from lure sellers or those that are sponsored by lure companys, check out the locked threads on BM to give you an idea, Madeyes mentioned one chap he approached for sponsorship turned him down, this could be the way of the future and we might see it more often because people don't need the headaches associated with it.

Another problem is everythings Apples then someone says you did not use your sponsors lures, i think we have a locked thread on that to ?

For some its smooth sailing and if you play your cards right ,, for others you spend all your time defending your sponsors products and designs etc

If you want a sponsor get a tackle shop sponsor (you can use all the products with no drama)or a rod sponsor or any number of other things, if you are sponsored by a lure company you could be in the poo,only the dept might vary,,otherwise make it very clear that while you are happy to use their lures you will use others if the situation warrants it.

vaporboy

17-01-2011, 03:52 AM

Yea haha in a few more years of breamin in me, my dream would be sponsored by a good as shop and nitro rods:D

Hyper Tackle

17-01-2011, 03:53 AM

If you are looking to sponsor guys put a post up and ask for responses and resumes you'll get a good idea of who you want and who you don't based on your criteria this way.

If people haven't used your product and approach you for sponsorship this can result in disaster and you wasting your money because a chance they wont be able to catch fish and wont gain the confidence required to use your products as a sponsored angler.

You don't necessarily need someone who gets the results in tournaments and even non tournament anglers can promote product just as well if not better because your avarage Joe sees them as an average Joe also and a lot more average Joes out there compared to tournament anglers.

Good luck with it

Mark

Madeye

17-01-2011, 03:53 AM

From what i have seen and who i have met i think that most sponsors have made great choices in who to sponser and cant seee them having any head achces.
Alot of great guys out their and im sure thier sponsors are very proud of them.

Hyper Tackle

17-01-2011, 03:55 AM

Mooza81

17-01-2011, 06:21 AM

Number 1 - Learn how to spell "sponsered".

Will help you every step of the way. ;)

#2 - Keep fishing and stay out of the politics..

Bobby Bass

17-01-2011, 06:32 AM

Im not in it for the sponsors, Im in it for all the gorgeous babes I get at tourneys:confused::confused: Matchmaker.com might sponsor me :D:D

True love is something I believe in :o:o:o awwwwwwwwww......I bet everyone bought that bullplop too :)

StuKlose

17-01-2011, 08:02 AM

phil jagger

17-01-2011, 08:23 AM

Yo Mish,

Just throw some product at a few crew who fish heaps and put reports up to start with. No serious strings...just some pics in return for some product, then go from there.

Phil

Madeye

17-01-2011, 08:25 AM

I think if your trying to launch a new range you need to get the product in as many hands as you can. People will try something new once and if it works will continue to use the product.

I would look at give aways through the Classics or similiar event i.e. each entrant gets a free pack. It may cost a bit at the start but the more people exposed to the product themselves the greater chance you have of creating a good vibe.

Stu

Great minds think alike Stu :D
Should be an anouncment some time soon.

Wanted to give alot more away last weekend. Unfortunatley i need to get over my fear of talking to strangers. Was a little bit intimidated.
I shouldnt have been though as everyone that i spoke to was so nice.

Dan Walter

17-01-2011, 03:49 PM

Soooooooo, still waiting to see what these lures look like??...

CHUNQX

17-01-2011, 04:42 PM

I'm curious too... Are your lures HB, vibe, SPs?

Raider

17-01-2011, 05:19 PM

Mish, matey.........Send a few my way.

I catch fish, more than happy to start posting pics, I consider myself a nice guy, trust me if it works I will believe in it, Age mid 30's and ready to have a crack at a few tournaments plus I tell the truth. Live on the North Coast of NSW where there are plenty Breamers to promote to.

I am more than happy to let you know and tell anyone that will listen, at present I love fishing with the Bushy Stiffy 50mm popper cause it catches me fish. I also love the Atomic Guzzler and Ripper Prongs cause they catch me fish !

Don't just sponsor cause he/she are good fisherman, let them use the product and hope to christ they catch fish. If they do catch fish, your product will be in safe hands !

Shortytheyakker

17-01-2011, 06:33 PM

Heres a report from Hazzell the other day,,it gives punters an idea of the shape (they are SP's)

http://www.breammaster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34302

Bear

17-01-2011, 11:33 PM

Once again, we are not interested in 'he said\she said', lets stick to the facts and subject.

Thanks,

StuKlose

18-01-2011, 12:10 AM

Once again, we are not interested in 'he said\she said', lets stick to the facts and subject.

Thanks,

Is this in reply to the fishing report?

danh124

18-01-2011, 01:07 AM

Madeye

18-01-2011, 02:56 AM

Is this in reply to the fishing report?

No was another post that has been removed.

3 inch bream worm
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz355/madeyelures/ToxicOoze.jpg

Double drift 3inch 5inch and 7inch
http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz355/madeyelures/IMG_0623.jpg

Have something a bit different that i will be realeasing in a few days.

Dell

18-01-2011, 02:57 AM

The bream worms would be a good replacement for eyeball tails

Bobby Bass

18-01-2011, 04:35 AM

I might give the bream worms a crack if I see them in Sydney.

I am unsure on the others, they are ment to be rigged on a shakey head? I dont think bream will like the presentation. The jig head will turn them off I think. Just my opinion. Have you had anyone test these? in Sydney? Serious question, not taking a shot. Hard to say without sounding rude but a good question I think.

Was that my post that was deleted? geez, I didnt think I stepped over the line at all, I guess I need to pick my words a bit more carefully.

Dissapointed about the deleted post, Please send me a PM telling me how I mucked up.

Sorry if I crushed any toes.

Bear

18-01-2011, 06:27 AM

People have been asked before about 'spreading rumours'. Not recessary or needed. No PM as I only have a few mins during the day to check the site and I didn't want it going further.

CHUNQX

18-01-2011, 04:59 PM

Eyeball tails types I understand how to use... but how are you meant to rig and use the double drifts?

phil jagger

18-01-2011, 06:04 PM

Looks like they are meant for Whacky riggin'

CHUNQX

18-01-2011, 06:39 PM

Looks like they are meant for Whacky riggin'

I was afraid someone might say that. How on earth does one catch fish with the whacky rig? I don't think I've seen anything alive (apart from a caterpillar) that has its middle portion bob up while the head and tail points down...

IceManDude

18-01-2011, 07:26 PM

here are a couple of old threads that have touched on the sponsorship thing

http://www.breammaster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25199

http://www.breammaster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27698

there is some good reading there!!

nuzzy

18-01-2011, 07:27 PM

this is a description of the Double Drifts that Mish provided on another site. hope you dont mind me posting this info Jaydon.

The middle jointed design of this lure gives it a unique side to side swaying action when rigged regularly.

Rigging a hook through the centre ball however totally changes the presentation of the double drift. Both arms flap tantalisingly as the lure drifts to the bottom. This also suspends the lure in the strike zone for longer. No need for any rod work its all about the drop.

Im really looking forward to using the larger 5 and 8 on the snaps this season and see this being my go to lure in the salt.
Have rigged 2 "wacky" (through centre ball) like a cross, in the swim tank and it looks awsome with limbs flying everywhere. I reckon this will work well on DHU

Comes in 3 sizes 3inch 5inch and 8inch

Bobby Bass

19-01-2011, 01:03 AM

People have been asked before about 'spreading rumours'. Not recessary or needed. No PM as I only have a few mins during the day to check the site and I didn't want it going further.

Point taken.

Bobby Bass

19-01-2011, 01:19 AM

"Doubble Drifts"
I know they are ment to be wacky rigged (I watch way too much US bass fishing), just wanted to see what people would think about the rigging options. The middle section is called the egg sack, they are designed for Large and small mouth bass fishing. Mouths are much bigger and totally different diet and method of feeding.

You are ment to rig them on a jig head through the egg sack and shake the lure. The jig head not realy being hidden, I dont think Bream will go for it unless in a frenzy. Just my opinion. The shake and slow wind method works on the flats for me but the jig head is hidden and rigged as ozzys rig worms, from the nose. Also the ones I use are much thinner and look like a squirt worm that nhabit the flats.

You would have more chance of catching something by rigging them incorrectly. I would think.

Madeye

19-01-2011, 05:07 AM

No problem nuzzy. I have been alittle busy playing with some new ideas in the "lure-bratory"

Thats why i called it the "double drift". Its designed to be fished either way.

Have had succsess wacky rigging them on paranoster rigs for snapper and sambos in the 5ich sizes.
I have mainly been using them in the 5inch and 7inch in the salt. I rig the 5ich on a 3/8 and the 7 on a half. The big tail really get the whole body to sway from side to side. Kind of looks like a snake swiming.

Fished them for the first time in the dying minutes of the albany comp but i only riggerd them normaly on jig heads. I used a heaveri jig head 1/16.
Because there is so much plastic in the tail when you sit it on the bottom it basicly stands up right.

When you wacky rig them you dont use a jig. You use the small mosquito hooks you use when tying a stinger rig.
A jig head will ruin the entier action. By using it unweighted the double drift will sway through the watter collum while flapping its arms.

Waiting for a prefectly flat day with little current as i reckon the snapper will go ballistic when presented this way.

dawson

19-01-2011, 08:43 AM

Bobby Bass

20-01-2011, 01:40 AM

Oh ok, They are a snapper bait.

Still wouldnt mind trying the worms. Can I get them in Sydney? Im fishng on the weekend as per normal. Get some exsposure over here if they go good. The clubs wouldnt mind seeing them Im sure.

Bobby Bass

20-01-2011, 01:45 AM

Here's some of the mad-eyes in action, I gave them my first shot this evening and was impressed with how well they caught, being a small plastic I had best results on a very small hook size and weight!

What kind of retrieve? lift and drop,twitch, shake and roll?
I think you can catch on all these retrieves but what did you find with them?
how do they cast?
Are they really soft?
Do they tear easily? (I dont mind if they do, just means they are soft as)
Did you fish structure or flats?

Some questions for those who are thinkng of using these lures
Thanks for putting up some pics