New Member - Ideas on Custom Dream Bream Boat

[Choppy]

Hello to all.

I have been reading and watching these forums for a few weeks now - they are extremely informative and interesting, thanks.

I am very interested in everyones ideas on what they class as the "Ultimate Custom Dream Bream Boat", all topics from hull size, layout, compartments, electrical gadgets and power.

The reason is that i have been fishing for bream with soft plastics from the beginning of the new craze. The last year has seen work take over all my time, and its about time i hit it again in a big permenant way - so i thought i would start with building a custom bream boat. Obviously not having been in the seen anywhere near as much as the members of this site, i know your insite will far surpass mine.

Thanks again - and i look forward to hearing your ideas:cool: :rolleyes:

[Bear]

No one else game so I'll have a go.

Remember guys, this is just my idea. Don't shoot me down.

4.75 plate hull boat - something along the lines of the Galvins or Cairns custom plate hulls.

70hp 4-stroke Honda

Minn Kota cable steer ?thrust

80l live wells front and back. One for boater and one for non-boater

Bass boat style seating with decks running right around the boat.

Padded lean\casting seats at 2 locations with extra slots to move them around.

Include rod lockers and all the toys and you'd have my dream.

Got to have a wicked paint job as well though :D

Hmmmmm, my dream boat? Hell already got it!!!!!!!!

Samurai

[madfish]

Here's mine, but I want a few changers.

[madfish]

Joy

[Geoff R]

My only considerations :
Huge deck space (if it ain't flat take it back), 2 8 foot rodlockers, 120L livewell Plumbed, timed and aerated, everything must be able to be stowed under the deck, the worlds biggest 4 stroke Motor with all the fruit electrics tilt etc and be made of plate ally and it has to be faster than Craig Stewarts boat:D

[Bear]

That's the one Madfish. A few Bear alterations and it's mine....... I wish.

[Choppy]

Thanks for the fast replys.

Bear you have basically read my mind. I been designing my boat around a length of 4.5 - 4.7m (depends on how i mount the motor).

The casting decks and rod lockers are the same height about 100mm below the top of the sides. the rod lockers are 3300mm long and about 380mm wide - giving ample room to walk around the cockpit.

the seats are only going to be a clip on cushion which will come off giving the non boater a large casting platform. don't forget the removable poling platform

Two live wells not sure of the sizes yet, the motor i'm sure yet, i'll wait and see how fast i am willing to spend approx 70 hp. (maybe more).

Samurai - nice machine, i especially like the console, my father has a hydrfoil centre console from Custom Cairns Craft - they sure do offer fantastic built quality and ride.

Madfish that is a very nice looking boat - is there somewhere i can view more photos.

[madfish]

I've got a coupla pics here somewhere, he had a spread in the last NAFA mag. Galvo operates out of Broome WA, Galvin Marine. I'm sure you'll find him in the phone book.He's a great bloke and will do near on anything with ali, the ali trailer in the first pick comes with the unit all inclusive.

[madfish]

They make a 225 yammie 4 banger Geoff, that should get you up and flying.

[TheJigJedi]

....above all, it needs to have a rock'n name!

[Geoff R]

If only i wasn't getting married and didn't have a mortgage or 2

[peter bear]

easy to get the boat you want ,get a personal loan before you get a house loan,then save for the deposit for the house, you cant use the first home owners most banks wont take it.

get my wife to arrange to get all your personal loans and new house loan put under the 1 loan then all you have is 1 payment 4 the lot EASY.

she is a mortgage broker ,[ex banker manager] knows all the in's and out's of the finanical game .

peter

Okay heres mine, I'm not claiming this DohDohDohDoh, most of these ideas came from Nick C.

4.5m long, glass in the same shape as Ranger boat from the states.

A 475HP fully bombed jet motor out of a jet ski. Light weight and would run in a puddle, great for the flats.

The motor is at the back with casting deck over it.

Blue fluro down lights around the gunnels that shine down for night fishing. Marine stereo from Alberts Hi Fi.

250 litres of usable livewell, this can be sectioned off if required.

Rod lockers, GPS, sat phone, fridge and all the fruit.......

Nick and I actually sat down one night and couldn't work out why this couldn't be done. The jet motor that is. You can pick them up for alot cheaper than you think. I saw a 250HP one in the paper for $800...................mmmmmmm

that it can't be done Ira.

Bombadier (who bought out OMC) make a heap of 2cycle jetski motors in all shaoes sizes and HP output.

Your right about it going anywhere and in shallow water too.

Roughtly 1/3rd of HP is lost in jetdrives in terms of fwd thrust but if you start with a LOT of HP anyway then losing so,me is no biggee.

generally speaking flats fish are pretty spooky so aproaching them with 2 stroke water exhaust jet motors is askin a lot bu hey - thats what the electric triollers for right?

The jets just for getting there n back (fast) across shallow water.

Sadly Ira most of WA's "flats" (ALA shark Bay and Burrup etc) will all be Marine park no go areas, definitely off limits to anglers so we will likely never see a serious flats fishery evolve in WA at all thanks to CALM, even tho we have ALL the great species except big Tarpon to inhabit them.

Anything thats a shallow benthic zone with ribbon grass CALM classes as a jevenile fish nursery area and they clearly want them all which is why Walpole Noprnalup and hardy inlets are on their hit list.

Why build flats boat from heaven when there will be no where leagl to use it?

Of course soon the waty CALM are going with their marine parks - the same will be said of bream boats!
;) :(

You could do the same thing in alloy you know!:D

Cheers!

[dan_WA]

I thought those big hp motors for jetskis wouldn't have enough torque to push a decent sized boat - like the old motorbike engine arguement - thi bi hp bike motors always spawned dreams of whacking 'em in a little corolla or datsun for a cheap, big hp motor, but they don't have enough torque to get the car off the mark......
I'd assume the same would be with the jetski motors - they are only effective on really lightweight craft (like jetskis)
is this right ?

[madfish]

I was thinking along those lines when I talked about this ages ago Dan, a 600cc honda can put out 200hp but it'd hardly spin the wheels in my one tonner.

Now were talkin....mmmmmmmmmmm motorbikes.
There a guys in the UK who have Lotus kit-cars with two, 900 fireblade engines in them. The cars weigh about 800kg and have over 400 horsies!!! The cars are light enough to take off. These cars have more acceleration than a formula one car (no DohDohDohDoh), but they cant handle or brake like one! A jet boat will work with the right configuration!

Dave

[madfish]

There's ways of getting boats with outboards to plane in very little water, so I can't see the need for a jet. I see the Yanks fit jack plates to their transoms that lift the motor while on the plane to operate in skinny water, Galvo from Galvin Marine makes a Tunnel punt that planes in a puddle. It some how pushs water up (tunnel)to the prop which sits nearly level with the hull, the Barra boys love'm.

[Shane]

Hiya...

Just curious... could you mount a electric motor on a jet ski?

...Cheers

Shane

[Choppy]

I do recall reading an article on a barra style custom built aluminium punt in fishing world. I think from memory the boat was called "Mud Skipper" - it was the issue that had the back section as a complete boat guide forum. I'll check it this afternoon when i get home i think Scotts Hornet from ALpine Angler was also issued in it.
The Mud Skipper looked great - it would be interesting to see how the handle characteristics of a boat with a jet would be.

Hi Madfish, my Barra Traka will run in six inches of water at full noise, one because of the hull shape and because my motor pod is set three inches above the hull, this allows me to have my motor set very high.

Cheers Samurai

[dredge]

I`ve been looking for what I think will fulfill my bream`n, estury and close reef fishing boat.

[dredge]

With a few custom features, a large live bait tank in the corner.

[dredge]

And a larger front deck