Anchoring is a No NO [Archive] - Bream Master Forums

andrico

22-07-2009, 12:24 AM

Dowelly

22-07-2009, 01:29 AM

how about when you drifting across the flats in a 35knt wind and find a school of fish. rather then drift over them and spook them you couldnt snchor up or use a power pole to stop you and catch some fish. in the end it is a comp and every fish counts.
sorry but i dont see any sence in banning anchoring

Dowelly

22-07-2009, 01:30 AM

to add to that you have not seen AFC barra events????

andrico

22-07-2009, 01:48 AM

You can use a sea anchor to slow your drift but again that is the skill needed to catch in those sort of conditions.

KD73

22-07-2009, 02:03 AM

Mike Starky uses a power pole which is really a modern variation of the anchor. His company also supports a lot of tournaments. You go tell him he is not fishing right and he will slap you silly with a wet guzzler

Dodgy back

22-07-2009, 02:39 AM

Nothing wrong with using anchor if you need to. It's all about lure and fly fishing not , no anchoring.

Powerbream

22-07-2009, 02:46 AM

Forget anchoring, Ban scent!

fushlups

22-07-2009, 02:57 AM

BAN FISHING!!!!!!!!!!!! ;):D

Can't anchor at all in the Port River in Adelaide, we'll be tying up to a mangrove next time we go out.

dawson

22-07-2009, 03:55 AM

mmm I don't have a problem with Anchoring, If it's what is necessary to keep in contact with the fish then I think it is a skill in itself,

Yes Dowell, They do anchor up on AFC chasing those barra over the weedbed's!

PS...Dowell I still have your copy of AFC...hehe

crabcrusher

22-07-2009, 04:53 AM

There is a time and a place for the anchor, and i dont see that it should be banned.

As others have said there can be some nasty conditions that require an anchor, or there may be a case of hardware failure (Electric Problems) when there is no choice but to use the prong.
This may take the glamour out of sportfishing, but after a couple of day of working an electric, the anchor option may seem like a great idea.

The sea anchor may be a good option, but it also a great way to scare the fish off the bite.

The scented baits are another story:D

Dowelly

22-07-2009, 05:16 AM

dawson, we can watch it again over some kipper fillets in sandwich bread camping at the place we love most later in the year

angling-addict

22-07-2009, 05:26 AM

I am refering to the Bream Classic at the Hopkins. .

Was the comp won by anchoring???

dawson

22-07-2009, 05:36 AM

Dowell,

I already have it penciled in! ...should be able to russel up some "free" herring fillets aswell..hehe BB

:) :)

Powerbream

22-07-2009, 05:59 AM

Was the comp won by anchoring???

It was last year mate.

Nick, Gulp is ok, it's the sh!t in little tubs that everyone smears on everything that should be banned.

gtxrally

22-07-2009, 06:09 AM

dawson, we can watch it again over some kipper fillets in sandwich bread camping at the place we love most later in the year
OOOOOHHHHHH,
Brokeback fishing :p:p:p:p

It was last year mate.

Nick, Gulp is ok, it's the sh!t in little tubs that everyone smears on everything that should be banned.

Aren't Gulp and scents the same thing really, 1 is added pre unpacking and the other is post, I don't really see a difference.
Dale.

Dell

22-07-2009, 06:22 AM

IMO i dont see much difference in anchoring up and say using your leccy to fight the current so you stay in the one spot i.e. like when the tide rips through under a bridge. Either way you're staying in one spot aren't you:confused: so wats the dif. JMO though

cheers

ruski

22-07-2009, 06:25 AM

Doc_Hollywood

22-07-2009, 08:10 PM

I think the main point of this post is in regards to the upcoming Hopkins comp where the bream will most likely be schooled up and if one team plonks themselves on top of it, basically cuts a lot of teams out from that school (correct me if I'm wrong?)

There is no difference in a guy stting off the same pylon or snag all day with his leccy and a lot of comps have been won by doing that. I remeber the King bridge in Albany a few years back someone tied of on every pylon using your motor in the current to fish one side or the other. When the wind is howling in Walpole i will tie my anchor on upside down so it drags through the sand to slow me down a bit. So i think the point is mute.

andrico

22-07-2009, 08:14 PM

That is what i was refering to inically. The Hopkins river classic where they anchor. In a social fish i do not have a problem but in a comp, locating the fish and plongking yourself on top not giving other teams a chance. By drifting you may line up whether 2 boats or 5 boats and they can all have a chance to catch. Even if you drift through the school may not guarentee a hook up.

Also what is wrong with scent?

Emo

22-07-2009, 09:10 PM

Scent is fine IMO, you either ban it all (gulp too) or you accept it all.

As for anchoring, I don't have a problem with it as long as if you re anchored up and another boat comes within casting distance of the school and anchors up (or drifts past you for that matter) don't get sh1tty with them.

As long as people are respecting other teams space and not getting too close fair is fair.

Oh and don't 'drop in' on someones drift:mad:

phil jagger

22-07-2009, 10:26 PM

Anchoring is a legitamate pastime..

trout_bum

22-07-2009, 11:14 PM

Powerbream

22-07-2009, 11:38 PM

Also what is wrong with scent?
It's not so much the scent but the grey area that surrounds it. Everyone is running around with little tubs of goo that for all we know could be mashed up pillies, prawns and tuna oil. Gulp is fine because its a commercially available pre packaged product. I know there are lots of commercially available scents out there but how do you tell the difference???? The only people to get upset about banning scent would be the ones using unorthodox scents. We would all be in the same boat if it were banned.

stompy

22-07-2009, 11:41 PM

Hey,

Comp fishing is all about getting your bag of fish within the rules of the tourneyment whilst being respectful to other anglers. If you decide to anchor it should be done with a degree of common sense, if you were to ban anchoring you would have to ban power poles from being used and also leccys that held you in the current where you wanted to fish.

Lots of blokes use power poles on the flats to hold them in patches whilst they work the whole area, its about catching fish. Would seem silly to me to find a patch of fish them politely move off them so everyone else gets a go:rolleyes:.

Somehow we got on the done to death debate of scent and gulp. Again both legal and use them if you like.

Regards

Lone Ranger

23-07-2009, 05:13 AM

I don't know how others feel about this topic but i think anchoring during a comp is a no no..

I wonder if any angling club or tournament governing body would want to touch on this topic as really when you talk about banning anchoring, you are really touching on a water safety issue here. Would their insurance company permit such a thing and would they want to take the responsilibity should an incident occur? Eventhough an anchor at certain places may not be compulsory, I think if one choose to take it, they should be permitted. And in a comp situation, how are they going to check up on this except to rely on the dobbers.

JMO

lockyh_19

23-07-2009, 07:13 AM

The thought of dozens of 50k + boats all anchored fishing GULP is just too funny ...... fishing scented moulded baits on hidden weights and using fluoro straight through on ultra soft rods ...... next they will be using one of these bad boys http://grandeslam.co.uk/

Let em anchor if they want; it's just another black mark that Lucifer will read out against their names on judgment day. They reserve a special corner of hell for breambos with no manners! :p

The 'sport' in fishing is that everyone can do somthing different in a fairly varied feild. In a compertition some people may decide to find the fish and anchor up others may motor along the banks picking up fish as they go and others may use thier electric to keep them in the same spot. If someone gets the spot you wanted, stiff, thats fishing and thats why you have to be resiliant and have other plans. That is my 5 cents worth if you think i am wrong please correct me.;)

Alex

23-07-2009, 08:40 AM

I don't know how others feel about this topic but i think anchoring during a comp is a no no.
I am refering to the Bream Classic at the Hopkins. There are a few boats that anchor and that has been happening throughout there comps.
By anchoring we take firstly the glamour out of the sport. We do not watch our AFC dvds, pro fishermen sitting fixed in one spot.They do not sit around like bait fishermen hoping that a fish comes along to take our lure. They motor along trying different techniques showing off there skill and ability.
I feel that is what differenciates our sport with bait fishermen, the glamour of motoring to different spots as opposed to sitting waiting.

Not sure if I ever saw one anchored during the comps I fished. Silly if you ask me. Didn't happen this year at Glenelg considering that the majority of fish were concentrating in one small area and boats were very close to each other passing one another. There was no rage or disputes on the water as everyone understood the situation.
However, I must admit that I haven't fished Hopkins so cannot comment on this particular instance. Again as others said, if it is not banned it can be used.
Cheers,
Alex

trout_bum

23-07-2009, 08:58 AM

Hi Locky,

You will find that my comments were firmly tongue in cheek as Lucifer wouldn't even accept GULP fishos in hell! I only made my comments to poke a bit of fun at the ridiculous side of things. All that gear and money invested to basically fish bait.

Of course people can fish GULP. Of course they can use S-Factor. Of course they can anchor up. It just seems that folks are regressing rather than the opposite.

Having said all that...in regards to anchoring......I lived in Warrnambool (as do you) for three years and its a small system. It would seem unfair that knowing the river as I do, that I could just sound out my favourite areas to find the better schools and then just prop on them for the sesh.

Cheers
TB

gtxrally

23-07-2009, 09:21 AM

It's not so much the scent but the grey area that surrounds it. Everyone is running around with little tubs of goo that for all we know could be mashed up pillies, prawns and tuna oil. Gulp is fine because its a commercially available pre packaged product. I know there are lots of commercially available scents out there but how do you tell the difference???? The only people to get upset about banning scent would be the ones using unorthodox scents. We would all be in the same boat if it were banned.

Nothing wrong with a bit freshly squeezed bass yabbie juice in your packet of camo worms :p:p

LongReach

24-07-2009, 04:41 AM

Nothing wrong with a bit freshly squeezed bass yabbie juice in your packet of camo worms :p:p

Hehe, once a gulp dries up you can virtually rehydrate them in anything you want.

Do boats in comps go through scruterneering(spelling) before launch?

Charlie

24-07-2009, 05:35 AM

What happens to your poor nonboater when you anchor? made to fish from the bow I suppose :D:D

breammulisha

24-07-2009, 05:43 AM

Anchors are for DohDohDohDohDohDohs

projoe

24-07-2009, 07:56 AM

Had to anchor or not fish a comp i was in the 2007 cobdogla callop (golden perch, yellow belly which ever relates) tourno held on the river murray here in S.A. Electric had packed up, choices - go home or keep fishing, we (team mate & myself) decided to anchor in a location with one big piece of structure, ended up taking out the comp with 5 good callop. we (team mate & myself) invited back for the grand final with a working electric & we won that as well, so with both senerios we came out on top !!!! I'm for anchoring if the elecric's out of order or the winds to strong.

madone

16-09-2009, 12:36 AM

no anchor was used in the winning of the hoppies last year. just ask a few people who were also fishing the same area. dont think it is illegal to fish the same 50 meters of bank all day?

Ballnuts

16-09-2009, 01:17 AM

Well I guess you would disapprove of the power poles then which is the exact same thing as anchoring. They are very useful.

don

16-09-2009, 06:48 AM

andrico
Some one anchor on your spot before you could get there ?

Tony Ireland

16-09-2009, 06:53 AM

I have no problem with people anchoring but I have never heard or seen a power pole. Any one got a photo of one and how do they work ?

Steve Morgan

16-09-2009, 07:40 AM

http://www.powerpole.com/

Tony Ireland

16-09-2009, 07:49 AM

Thanks Steve, looks interesting

Acanthopagrus

16-09-2009, 07:45 PM

I feel that is what differenciates our sport with bait fishermen, the glamour of motoring to different spots as opposed to sitting waiting.

Do they use an anchor in the Bass Tournaments in the US?

MinnowMan

16-09-2009, 07:56 PM

I feel that is what differenciates our sport with bait fishermen, the glamour of motoring to different spots as opposed to sitting waiting.

Do they use an anchor in the Bass Tournaments in the US?

Glamour doesn't catch fish.. If you find fish schooled up (if necessary) I don't see why you wouldn't anchor and concentrate on your lure technique rather than messing around with the electric at the same time.

Steve Morgan

16-09-2009, 08:31 PM

Do they use an anchor in the Bass Tournaments in the US?

Actually, in most US bass events, anchoring is the only way you can secure a spot if you want it exclusively. Read the rules on www.bassmaster.com or www.flwoutdoors.com

Cheers,

SM

Acanthopagrus

16-09-2009, 09:42 PM

So in effect its not done in other similar competition so its a no show on banning the use of an anchor.

brad mcdonald

17-09-2009, 12:22 AM

if you ban anchoring and you may as well cap the hp on out boards and limit the size of drift anchors as well .... all items effect the speed of boat movement.

an anchor is just another fishing tool, like an extra rod or your gps, use it as you see fit.

bigfella

17-09-2009, 06:51 AM

I dont think it is a problem. If the weather is less than average and riding a foot pedal is not your idea of fun then where is the harm.
If you come across a school of fish and they are concentrated in a small area then why not anchor.
I dont see the issue. As Brad said, limit horsepower, limit rod numbers, Ban GULP, ah hell lets make it fair for all and do as the POMS do and have allocated areas for course fishing.
Why else would i spend 50 grand on a boat! Get there as fast as i can and then not be allowed to stay there coz someone else may want to later.

Let Anchoring stay i say!!!
Chris

LING

18-09-2009, 03:09 AM

And the hopkins was won again by anchoring up

duffman

18-09-2009, 05:30 AM

dont you hate it when you speak your mind , then regret it :p

duffman

18-09-2009, 05:32 AM

you use leccy to stay in same spot ...

Becker_11

13-12-2009, 09:26 PM

It's impossible to ban scent.

If you did you would also have to ban carrying opened packets of plastics on the boat as guys could just add scent to the bags the night before.

This would require arriving for the comp 5 hours before kick off so every tackle bag/rod locker and livewell could be checked for hidden pre scented bags of placcies.

Unworkable.

Becker_11

13-12-2009, 09:30 PM

On the anchor issue.

You can ban using an anchor to fish the comp but you can't ban carrying the anchor cause as Lone Ranger said that becomes a safety issue.

Banning something that legally has to be carried opens up a midfield of problems.
Team A has 5.450kg in their bag
Team B has 5.400kg in theirs
So they accuse Team A of anchoring to win the comp.
Prove they didn't.............. Too hard

Doc_Hollywood

13-12-2009, 10:56 PM

Ha ha didnt get me this time, only read the first and last post of this 4 pages of dribble. How is this even a debate. Use what you have fish where and when you can and abide by the rules, they are pretty straight forward and simple.
Fishing is a yes yes go and do it.

stompy

13-12-2009, 11:08 PM

Lads,

Some of new leccies comming out have gps attachments with programs that will hold you in place, thats even better than anchoring and with a lot less hassle. Plenty of blokes use power poles on the flats.

An anchor is old technology, if people want to use them good luck.

Regards,

Roundman

16-03-2010, 10:38 PM

Just to clarify we didnt win the Hopkins comp last year by anchoring, the water we were fishing was so shallow we put the motor down to stop drifting.
Warren did win the ABT round on the Clarence a few years ago by anchoring on the first day because of very strong winds and a roaring tide while fishing a deep hole 18m deep on the middle wall for the whole weekend. Good on him for having the persistence to do it for 2 days especially on the 2nd day when the only bite period lasted a whole 30mins at around 11am. Most of us would have given up and tried elsewhere before that, deserved every bit of that win and learn't a very valuable lesson in tournament fishing. When you find fish in numbers don't leave them. You might get lucky occasionally by moving to another spot but persistence usually pays.
Cheers Craig

budda

21-03-2010, 06:13 AM

I don't know how others feel about this topic but i think anchoring during a comp is a no no.
By anchoring we take firstly the glamour out of the sport. I feel that is what differenciates our sport with bait fishermen, the glamour of motoring to different spots as opposed to sitting waiting.

:D:D:D oh that is just too funny -what is the "glamour" associated with motoring to different spots - it means you're not at the spot where those that are anchored are probably catching fish.

Pleeeaasee.....next thing the "elite" and "glamourous" tournament fisherman will be banned from using gulp or scent anyway because they will get their fingernails dirty so there will be a new rule stating that all competitors will need to wear gloves. You don't need to feel bites like bait fishermen anyway so why not make it a rule?

Andrico, what happended were a bunch of big old nasty bait fishermen anchored at your favourite spot during a comp which you felt you had exclusive rights to because you fish tournaments? Or perhaps pulling the anchor rope is too difficult?

Get your head from above the clouds - tournament fishing isn't always "glamour" - I am sure having to scrape up enough money for comp fees and pitching a tent to fish a comp is real "glamourous".

I applaud anyone that has the fishing sense to use techniques that give them the best possibility to outfish their competitors WITHIN the rules - isn't that what comp fishing is all about rather than a bunch of narks complaining?

Oh dear - is this what tournament fishing has come to?

john & shayne

21-03-2010, 07:45 AM

If, at say somewhere like Walpole, when the wind is thirty knots,and you are on the flats, and you chuck a six inch length of railway line out the backto slow your drift. Is this a "slow" anchor. Jeez get over it, everyone has an anchor (safety) and if you use it to your advantage, and win Clap Clap, well done.