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Just wondering what the vic breamers thought of the 10 sec start at glenelg
Good idea.
The start line was a bit squashy for 66 boats.
Also some boats were heading upstream and some downstream.
Those heading downstream had to do a u-turn and navigate between a lot of boats still waiting for their start. With 10 seconds delay it was much safer.
Cheers,
Alex
I thinks it was good having the 10 sec intervals even though the speed limit at the start area is 5 knots. For other events with no speed limit I reckon it will make for much safer starts.
IceManDude
07-05-2009, 07:52 PM
I agree, it was much safer and gave everyone a better chance to get into position.
I wouldn't like to be in amongst 66 boats if they all left within 2 seconds of each other, it would be chaos.
macka
07-05-2009, 09:19 PM
What are your thoughts on starts from various locations i.e, Donovans, sapling etc, with the competitors self marshalling?
Great idea for the Glenelg, who wants to waste 4 hours doing a return trip way up the river only to have 3 hours fishing time available.
It would also work well at Metung, 2 or 3 different start/finish locations would enable the smaller/slower boats to get up the rivers without having to cross the lakes and running the risk of capsizing or just not being able to get back to weigh in for safety reasons.
A start/finish area at Paynesville and another at Nicholson pub along with the one at Metung would be great, I doubt Bill would support te idea as the amount of extra work involved would be a killer.
crabcrusher
07-05-2009, 09:53 PM
The ten second delay was great idea. This certainly maintained a higher level of safety to all those involved.
The idea of a seperate marshalling point is also a great idea. This will give those who wish to fish the alternate locations who sometimes may not be able to access in a less powerful machine, the option.
It would create additional work for the Co-ordinators, but would make for some interesting fishing.:D
Ballnuts
07-05-2009, 11:06 PM
This is what I reckon guys
Everyone can start from their own house, fish whereever they want and then do their own weigh in and just email me their bags weight and I will stay home and collate all the info. One big honour system I'm sure it would work great:p
What ya think good idea?
Coonta Kinta
07-05-2009, 11:19 PM
Emo & Macka I like your ideas on the subject but wondered why it is that instaed of doing it that way competitors can not drive from the start point to the areas you speak of, not in the boats but rather in the vehicles and then launch from the areas you suggest.
I'm new to the whole tournie thing, only fished two classic events here in adelaide, so excuse my ignorance on the subject, but with The Donavans and especailly sapling, being so close by road yet so far by river could this not help in some way. Competitors would still leave at their designated number but by car instead of boat. Maybe even have all boats in the water for the start and then if you wish to fish the upper stretches you have to retreive and move off. Perhaps to make it so that you have to advise of your intent to do this at the briefing.
Anyway, by all accounts, sounds like it was a fruitful and well oil event so congratulations to all. Cant think of a better place to hold such things, but then again I'm biased as I think its a slice of heaven on earth:)
Ballnuts
08-05-2009, 12:15 AM
Insurance can be an issue with anglers driving cars and boats to different destinations etc
Having all people start in the one area adds to the strategy of the tournament as anglers need to assess whether making long runs to other areas is worth it etc.
Having anglers pulling boats in an out of the water to go to different destinations really opens the door up for cheating
macka
08-05-2009, 12:30 AM
Bill, I thought i might get some reactions. Never hurts to test the water, but should never make changes for change sake.
Coonta Kinta
08-05-2009, 01:22 AM
Having anglers pulling boats in an out of the water to go to different destinations really opens the door up for cheating
Yeah hadnt really thought of that, but in hindsight and with Warrnie and the Hopkins not being that far away make sense really
Graysy
08-05-2009, 01:49 AM
We started in 66th place on Saturday and didn't have a problem with it. Just meant we could relax a little bit longer.
Powerbream
08-05-2009, 03:33 AM
Having all people start in the one area adds to the strategy of the tournament as anglers need to assess whether making long runs to other areas is worth it etc.
Thats one thing I really like about places like glenelg, you could travel 3 hours up, make 5 casts for 5 fish and head back.
Thats one thing I really like about places like glenelg, you could travel 3 hours up, make 5 casts for 5 fish and head back.
Hmmmm........... or travel 1 minute up, make 5 thousand casts for 1 fish and head back.:D
Powerbream
08-05-2009, 05:13 AM
Hmmmm........... or travel 1 minute up, make 5 thousand casts for 1 fish and head back.:D
Yeah thats normally what I do.
gtxrally
08-05-2009, 05:54 AM
Having all people start in the one area adds to the strategy of the tournament as anglers need to assess whether making long runs to other areas is worth it etc.
That is the whole point, like some of the guys have said, you might spend 6 of your 7 hours travelling to get the right fish, 5 cast's 5 x 1kg fish and bob's your uncle :D:D
Dale.
That is the whole point, like some of the guys have said, you might spend 6 of your 7 hours travelling to get the right fish, 5 cast's 5 x 1kg fish and bob's your uncle :D:D
Dale.
Thats never happened:eek:
IceManDude
08-05-2009, 08:12 AM
That is the whole point, like some of the guys have said, you might spend 6 of your 7 hours travelling to get the right fish, 5 cast's 5 x 1kg fish and bob's your uncle :D:D
Dale.
I wish it was that easy!!!:D:D
gtxrally
08-05-2009, 08:33 AM
It is you guys don't try hard enough!!! :p:p:p:p
Hazy-1
08-05-2009, 06:33 PM
Push me shuve you or yeah says who?
gtxrally
08-05-2009, 09:39 PM
Push me shuve you or yeah says who?
Ahhh, A MAD MAX classic, well doneHazy
DrPopper
08-05-2009, 10:20 PM
Can someone explain to me how its possible to travel 3 hours before your fishing?
Its not as if you have to run to the shelf.
IceManDude
08-05-2009, 11:35 PM
ummmmm............
8 knots....... then 5 knots........... then 4 knots......... you get the drift:D
Can someone explain to me how its possible to travel 3 hours before your fishing?
Its not as if you have to run to the shelf.
70km of navigable river at jogging pace
Graysy
09-05-2009, 04:56 AM
We travelled about 150m for our fish.
crabcrusher
09-05-2009, 05:04 AM
We travelled about 150m for our fish.
Well done.What was the best lure there Graysy?
Graysy
09-05-2009, 05:36 AM
It was a Banana Prawn and a Ecogear blade. We got a 3.80kg bag of the one snag. We even called our mates in to fish the same snag so that they could get there 5 fish.
It was a Banana Prawn and a Ecogear blade. We got a 3.80kg bag of the one snag. We even called our mates in to fish the same snag so that they could get there 5 fish.
We were fishing just downstream from you guys on another snag and I couldn't believe my eyes, 2 or 3 boats hammering a snag for hours on end and fish after fish coming out of it:D awesome stuff.
Funny thing was, we were fishing 30 meters away but only casting into the deep water with blades etc, until I saw you what you guys were doing, so I turned around and started pitching placcies and vibes into our snag and the action was instant and hot.
I've never seen so many bream caught in 200 meters of a river in my life, counting the undersize fish (which outnumbered the legals 10/1 at least) I would estimate between 500-1000 bream caught in that area each day.
Yeah id say atleast 1000 fish.. We counted 22 boats fishing that area that we could see at one stage.. Yeah we found the start a little bit better this year.. It did give you the option of heading down the bottom easy rather than waitng till the other boats had gone.. The old speed limit issues are alway going to cause problems over there.. Alot of boats dont have a speedo in the boat so makes it guess work anyway..ive fished over there a bit and know that a lot of people dont worry about the limit out of the comps.. Saying that dont think anyone would trek up to saplings in a boat outside the comp...
crabcrusher
09-05-2009, 07:40 PM
It was a Banana Prawn and a Ecogear blade. We got a 3.80kg bag of the one snag. We even called our mates in to fish the same snag so that they could get there 5 fish.
Thats awesome. one snag for a bag like that would make for exiting fishing.
We left 3rd on the second day and were in two minds on whether to hit the school or look for bigger fish. The problem was we didnt find bigger fish as they were in the school.:D
There would have easily been over a 1000+fish wrangled off that school, with some absolute honkers too. Gillians 1.74kg unit was a one big unit and a well deserved fish for her.
bream miagi
09-05-2009, 10:10 PM
i myself liked the the 10 sec intervals
safety wise =much beter and launching all over the place is redic....
those who make the effort to travel dont always have the advantage.....
this year it was won within a few hundred meters of the ramp whilst last year it was won way upstream...thats tourney fishing...decisions decisions
so leave them as they are i say...
macka
10-05-2009, 02:12 AM
Hey fella,s, if the Bream bit as well for me as you blokes I'd be Aussie Angler of the Year.
Off to Merimbula for 2 weeks, whiting on surface lures....yum.
Heno79
10-05-2009, 10:16 AM
i'm with spiro on this one, definately alot safer with the 10 second starts, specially at places like metung or coota where there's alot of quick boats all trying to be first around shaving point at first light. I did like the johnsonville start option Bill organised for last year due to the strong winds but wouldn't like to see that at every event as some of these guys have spent alot on quick boats to gain an advantage, whether thats to get to a spot first or have the ability to cover more water in a day it would be a shame to see the field go back to smaller craft if that advantage was cancelled out by multiple start points. It would take away from the spectacle, in my opinion anyway, particularly with all the work Bill has put into raising the profile of the classics with the likes of vic bream tv and the boat show etc.
So in all i gather that everyone thought that the 10 sec start was a good idear.
Well il be the first to thank BILL for taking the time and to put in the effort to make OUR comp one of the best and safest . WELL DONE BILL . As with the start at metung and the option to start in the tambo if the wind is up i think is a good safety measure as well . Thumbs up to Bill for well orginized comps.
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