Ugly Stiks???

[Surfer_Bream]

Hi all, after a week of reading past posts i finally registered!!

I went to my local tackle shop and asked what rod would be best for sarting out with bream on lures and he said i couldnt go wrong with an ugly stik. I wasnt sure if he was trying to rip me off so im asking you guys if they're any good.
And also are there different types of ugly stiks???

cheers

[chris_lemess]

Give him a clout round the ears and say "only if it's a graphite ugly stik". No, seriously, the graph. uglies are good rods but not worth the price tag. DON'T let him sell you a predominantly fiberglass rod as a bream luring rod - this happened to me when I bought my first bream rod; you will definately regret it. Give us some sort of a max price and the guys here will recommend scores of rods to suit. A few I can think of include the Shimano Stella and Squidgy spin, Daiwa Heartland IM6, Daiwa Procaster and others.

I would say go to another tackle shop ie. someone that knows something about breaming.

cheers

[Mattj]

Hey

Ive got an 'ugly stik lite', 2 pce, 3-7kg rating which sounds heavy but its light(as the name says) and is also well built and strong. Got cork grips and stainless steel guides. You can get diff types of ugly stiks. I think the blanks are the same, its just how they are finished off (I could be wrong).

I use and abuse mine and its going strong after a year or so, matched with Okuma epix its great for tossing lures around.
Well that my opinion for what its worth, cant say Ive tried too many other sorts of rods though.

Matt:D :D

[Surfer_Bream]

I was looking at these rods todaywas pretty impressed with them but the procaster X was a bit out of my price range. Are the
normal procasters any good and how much are they normally because im thinking of getting one.

cheers

Th Procaster S is only around the $100 mark. Not a bad lil rod.
Call the BM store and ask as Geoff P will be able to give an exact price!

Dave

[Bear]

My brother has just got into Breamin and bought the 6'6" Stella. Not a bad rod for the price.

Hi

I dunno what you guys think but in my opinion ugly stiks are the best rod that you can get. They are light, strong and sensitive to bites also you can cast extremely far with them

Daniel

[pw-bream]

The Ugly Sticks aren't light at all, they are quite heavy and have a very thick blank wall and a solid fibreglass tip, the rods we typically use for bream spinning are much lighter and are usually made pretty much entirely from carbon fibre all the way from butt to tip. The blank walls are very thin and the rods are very crisp in action.

Ugly Sticks are a well made, reliable rod that can take some punishment and rough handling, they are not optimal for finesse style fishing such as most of us practise when Bream spinning.

[nifty]

Good on ya PW, now I know why I bought a Heartland z, I knew there was a good reason to spend $300, I am going to let my wife read your reasoning so she doesn't hit me anymore, very well put mate, I love the way you said that...

[corey]

I use an ugly stick lite with an okhuma av20,
The butt is way too long but I can't Imagine anything else handling the punishment this has taken.
Cycling through trees in Bassendeen, getting carved up by 4kg trevaly in the nor'west, all kinds of bad unsnagging techniques etc.
not bad for $99.
When I do upgrade, that rod will alway be me bmx based rod, and also my loan rod.

[mike_mad_fisho]

gday guys
i picked up a procaster s awhile back for $76 rated to 8lb and i find that i mainly use this rod for my flattie work with softies and i also have a heartland 2-4lb i think it is the is a good rod which i use for my breaming.
MB

[chris_lemess]

PW said it! What are you on Daniel? :D

Well Ok,

Ugly Stiks are not that light but they still are very strong and i need strong rods because i ride my bike alo and ocasionly i into trees and things.

Daniel

[pw-bream]

Daniel,

If you have to cart your rod around on your BMX bike and travel through trees, etc than I think an Ugly Stik is probably well suited to the job. I think you've made a good choice for your circumstances and usage.
When you have a safer (for the rods) mode of transport you may want to try a different rod for your light tackle lure fishing, I think you will enjoy the extra performance and sensitivity of the latest generation of lightweight, high modulus, graphite rods :-)

I've carried plenty of rods on my mountain bike and I know how tough on them it can be, I'd never try it with my light graphite Bream rod. I'll only take older, strong fibreglass rods unless I have a rod tube to protect them.

[jhlee]

Hi there, this is only my opinion. I could be entirely wrong. Ugly sticks graphite rods are good for breaming but then they use lower class graphite compared to those of innovater and daiwa and loomis. I this if you want to buy a bream rod then daiwa and innovator would be a good choice. The thing about Ugly sticks graphite using lower class graphite material is that it doesn't feel as sensitive. They are more better in designing fibre glass rods for other fishing types. And i think Shakespeare are pretty outdated with its technology. As i said again, i could be entirely wrong. Comment me if I'm wrong.... Happy Breamin...

[Duncan M]

Yeah, I probably wouldn't cart my Struddie around on my bmx (not that I actually own one hehe) either, but still...Daniel, sell a kidney and buy a car AND a struddie, it's the only real solution.

Duncan ;)

Duncan
I would sell my kindney to buy a car.



If I WAS OLD ENOUGH TO DRIVE!!!!!!!!:D :D

Daniel

[Mattj]

G'day

I dont know a great deal about the latest, best type of rods for breamin' but is it true that graphite rods are fairly fragile? Say if it fell while leaning against side of car or something similar and hit a rock that it may cause it to fracture which may not be noticed until its under load.

I'm not trying to say that graphite is no good cause it sounds as though they are the way to go for liteness and sensibility etc. I just wanna know if I upgrade that I have to treat it like a new born.:confused:

Matt

[Stuie_02]

Hi Eveyone

I think the point comes back to that all graphite rods verus a graphite and fiberglass rod. The all graphite rod will win hands down in the casting department but in coping with wear and tear a fiberglass rod will weather much more abuse than a graphite.

I would of thought the slow action on the ugly wouldnt be as crisp a graphite loading up. Also the graphite on a ugly is on the base so it doesnt mattern what sort of modoulus of graphite it is.

There are truck loads of composite rods out there, i heard that the penn rods (composites as well) are rolled in the same factory as ugly at nearly a third of the price. If your going for a rod that will handle abuse i would stick with a all fiberglass rod not a very good casting but will handle abuse like nothing else. Ask my Dad he lets me use his butterworths and there still rolling on after 20years (PS he bought a procaster 3 months ago and is in love).


Cheers
Stuie