Holy Crap..what happened

[Bream Master]

Sorry guys, I was typing a post to the "Pimps" thread when the whole thing came crashing down. I'll try and revive it if possible.

My response was basically clarifying my last post.

I wasn't calling bait fisho's elitist, I was referring to a small element within that fraternity that refuse to accept that artificials are here to stay. They are the ones who slag the comps, stir up trouble on sites, and generally do whatever they can to give themselves a shield to hide behind instead of proving their ability in the proper manner. These are the self confessed "bream legends" I was having a dig at.

All bait fisho's are more than welcome here at Bream Master, as the majority are looking for information to expand their skill, and are willing to ask questions, help others etc.

What I don't want is idiots detracting from the efforts of those who donate their time to give us a great pastime.

Warren.

ps. anyone who also got the system error after the crash, can you post here so that everyone is aware it was a general problem, not just me wanting to get rid of the thread. Thanks.

[docbromley]

Yeah Warren - I got the error.

Quite entertaining reading in the threads today!!

[blackwater]

Warren,
You got rid of that thread just because of the photo swank-e had of you out pimping soft plastics. C'mon tell us the truth, there wasn't any server crash was there;) :D

[Bream Master]

I did like it, but my suit is actually purple not red...LOL

Actually, you've just given me a great idea for the next comp. The prize rocks, and there is more than one of them. I'll post the details later today.

Warren.

[Dave W]

It was the same for me W.D.

I had just finished a huuuge reply - only to be told the link was no longer valid.....

I won't re-type it now..... I've cooled down a bit:D

Cheers,

I missed out on having my two cents worth in the last lot, so here goes.

As a magazine editor and a tournament promoter, I have never ever seen an ad in a magazine from a bait company nor have I ever seen a tournament sponsored by a bait company........

Lets face it magazine and tournaments are both buisness.

[Bear]

I thought it was deleted ;)

Wasn't me, still, I've probably said my bit. Curious to see what others think.

[Richo]

I didn`t miss it, I just tactically avoided it, ;) it was a most interesting read with a most Interesting Picture.:D

[Bream Master]

Maybe that was the problem, four or five big posts all submitted at once. Mine was about 5 paragraphs. When it crashed the error showed 51 replies. When I started typing my reply, it was 40 !!!

There must have been a bit to much action for the database.

Please feel free to post if you have further comments to add.

Let's just try and keep it direct and impersonal. We pride ourselves on the open talk without the agro of some other sites.

Warren.

[Bear]

Your post made it through Warren. Kris and Samurai had a bit of a chat and then it was gone.

[Dave W]

Must have been my essay that did it then.....

as well as all the pictures of Warren's ladies.... you can't have a pimp picture without them :D :p

[Bream Master]

Originally posted by Bear
I thought it was deleted ;)

No it wasn't, I went to post and it came up with a similar error screen to the problem we had last week. It specified my post as the originating entry that locked it up, and after I ran the repair on the dB, the pimp thread was gone.

I printed off the error log for evidence cause I knew everyone would be thinking I just deleted it. If I wanted to do that, I would've done it Saturday. I just spoke to Geoff in the store, and he was trying to submit a reply at that time too.

Worst part was, it was the only thread I had really got my teeth into lately. I'm a bit passionate when it comes to protecting the bream scene and you guys.

Warren.

[jimi]

I kinda found it a bit disturbing. It's a pitty there are people out there willing to have a go at us before trying to understand us.

This site is one of the least "elite" fishing sites that I know of. This sport in general is full of people who are willing to share information, much more than some of the other types of fishing I've been involved in.

Hi Jimmi, I wonder why you found the thread "very distubing" I was there from the start and found it very entertaining and at times very amusing.
I also wonder what the hell a bait company sponsoring or not sponsoring a comp has to do with anything, by the way there is a bait company in QLD called Tweed Bait that runs adds in mags over here on a regular basis.

Cheers Warren:D

[jimi]

I said a "bit disturbing". Yep, loved the bit with Warren in the pimp suit and all, just don't want to see too much of this kind of thing on the site where we continually have to keep defending our position.

It was only the initial poster that worried me.

I have come to the conclusion that the guy was just trying to wind everyone up, and he did. (some of us that is, including myself). He had no real argument, so now i've learnt something and i will react differently next time! I really get annoyed at people knocking this site!

Dave

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Cheers Warren

Samurai, my point was that bait companys rarely ever support tournaments. Many tournaments are lure based only as they are the only companys prepared to sink money into it. Plus lure fishing tournaments are a true test of an anglers skill.

I also noticed your other comment about bream not being sportsfishing. Surely you must be joking?

ABT now has over 600 members around Australia and next year over $100,000 in cash and prizes will be given away in Australia all in the name of bream.

Fishing for prizes is sportsfishing, it’s fishing as a pure sport. Already we are seeing guys doing this part time for a living. I’ll tell you one thing, guys will make a full time living out of fishing for bream in this country a long, long, long time before that ever happens to barramundi (if it ever happens at all) or even bass. Bream will be the biggest single species in sportsfishing in this country in the years to come.

Ira, before you start on me, make sure you know what your talking about. I never said I don't class bream on lures as sport fishing, I said there are some who don't class bream on lure as sport fishing, get it right mate:)

Cheers Warren

And while Im on a roll, my personal feelings about bream comps or tours, is that it's the best thing to happen to the tackle industry in years the more people that get into it the better for me and others involve in the tackle side of the industry.
And another thing Iv been making a living off barra for the last six years lol. again bream on lure is great I like it and on occasion
enjoy doing, but don't give me that crap about how better bream are to catch on lures than barra, get real. I know I will get howled down over this post, but call a spade a spade.

Warren

[Bear]

I don't think you can really compare it Warren, and unless people have fished for Barra you can't.

They are very similar styles of fishing though, I think that's why I enjoy Breamin so much.

One thing that Breamin has in favour is that it's available to a lot more people. That and you don't have to dodge the crocs :D

Hi Bear, mate I agree with you, Im not knocking bream fishing, what Im saying is that there are a lot of species that are much better to catch than on lures than bream, and if some guys would for one minute stop being so tunnel visioned about bream they might just see that by pointing this fact out I am by no means knocking bream fishing.
As I have already said many time here bream on lures are great fun, but don't try to make it out to be the end all and be all of sport fishing

Cheers Warren

[SWANK-E]

you can't escape this warren

BREAM MASTA PIMP!!

[Bear]

I don't think anyone is Warren.

I think the point is that, compared to any other species, it's growing at a great rate. A lot of it has to do with the way the tournaments are run and the support of the guys who fish it.

I wish we had the level of support in the NT with Barra as we do with Bream here. There is a lot to be learnt from having a strong, supportive user base. There is no way I would get anywhere near the sort of help that is offered here from the Barra community in the NT or Kimberleys. And that's from experience.

I think you'll find that's why a lot of us are very one eyed when it comes to this. We've had a lot of 'Johnny Come Latelys' who would like to take advantage of the popularity of BREAM comps to further their own without doing justice to what has happened here in the past 12 months.

Again JMO.

[Bream Master]

Are you the guy who has the Samurai Sportsfishing site. I just clicked. That's where we found the JMT Bass Boats.

Warren.
(The real one...LOL)

[Richo]

One thing I will say being pretty much new to lure fishing for Bream, is that Bream is pretty much the only species we can catch in our river which we can really enjoy - especially on lure, apart from GH`s, we don`t exactly have the vast aray of different species you guys have over east, so when this is all you got you`d have to expect some of to be exteremly tunnel visioned, myself included, it just blows me away. Especially when its on our doorstep.

All this being said I wait in extreme anticipation for my first venture chasing Barra, somethiing I hope to do in the future for sure. If I think Breamin`s pretty special, Im sure Barra will have the same effect on me, as would hooking the odd Trev, or Jack etc.

cheers

Bear I can't speak for or about the barra fishermen in the NT, but I can for the guys in NQ a more helpful lot of fishermen you will not find in this country, the only guys we ever get to our barra comps with big ego's are from down south and it all ways seems to be these so called "tournament pro fishermen" who strut out their ego's and let everyone know who they are and how good they down south, then when they get back home amonst their pro mates it's not the fact that they just were not good enough to catch a barra during the comp, it was the way the comp was run, the tides were not right or the water was to cold.
Barra fishing in NQ is totally different to the barra fishing the Rivers of NT. As for the main barra tournament in NQ they can hold their own against any sports fishing tournaments in this country be it bream, bass or barra.
Im only to happy to listen to the comments of guys when they want to compere lure fishing from one species to the other, but if you are going to say one species is better than another at least make sure you have spent some time lure fishing for those other species and not just watched a video or read about them in some fishing mag.
I relise this is not a barra webb site but but if it's member are going to try and compere their breams fighting ability to species such as barra, mangrove jacks, salmon (not the type you get down south) or fingermark. then at least let the guys who fish for these species have their say without accusing them of slagging the art of bream fishing with lure.

Thank you Warren

[Bream Master]

Originally posted by Samurai
I realise this is not a barra web site

Patience young Samurai...patience.

Your barra site may be closer than you think...

Warren.
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[Bear]

I don't remember anyone saying that. This started out about a bait fishos dig. I don't remember anyone heading off in that direction.

Hi Warren, great name by the way:D hey nothing wrong with this site, I think it's great, just think some members are a little one eyed:D

Cheers Warren

Bear you mentioned that the barra guys in NT were not a helpfull group I was just letting you know That it's not like that in NQ that's all.

Yes Warren I am that other Warren lol

Cheers Warren

[Craig_S]

Samurai, I think the only way to resolve this in fair and equitable fashion would be for two anglers of impartial repute to immediately jet off to your location for a 2 week sample and then to return for 2 weeks in a southern river.

Its a tough ask of someone, but if the BM were to sponsor it I'm sure that GeoffP and me would shoulder the burden.:)

[Bear]

To be fair to all that Craig you would have to fish each region. NQ, NT and the Kimberleys. As such I think it only right that I act as guide to some little known locations.

It's only right :D

[Craig_S]

Fair enough, all that remains is for the BM to stump up with some airfares and then we can put the whole thing to rest once and for all.

[Mim]

I think it is neccessary that you take someone along who can cook and fish as well, so I will volunteer my services too

Mim

[Bear]

Sorry Mim, but I have a few killer recipes for Barra so we won't go hungry. We do need to cover all aspects of the Bream community so we must have both lady and gent fishos. We would be remiss if we didn't ;)

Don't forget the Barra gear Craig. We would need Warren to get something going there as well. Wait 'til you see the Barra lures available :rolleyes:

Lucky we don't have Barra in Perth. I'd really be in trouble then.

Now I think it would be only fair that I be flown (first class of course) to WA to try your bream out, and did I mention I would like a motel room with a veiw of the river, and of course BM will have to pay the frieght to get my boat to WA.

Cheers Warren

ps will sent you a e mail regarding my special food menu that I will require during my stay in WA.:D

[Mim]

OK

This is getting silly now

Must be the onset of the cold weather

[blackwater]

Warren..AKA.... THE PIMP
..AKA.... BREAM MASTER

Ok, we have waited long enough. Whats this idea for the new comp you were thinking about?? Any comp to do with that photo has got to be something special:D C'mon give us some info.
PPPPPLLLLLLLEEEEEEEAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEE.

Thanks
Brian