Force Need 2 Set Hook

[Rayman]

Hey Guys,

just a question
haven't posted for sooooooooo long

but here it is,
What's the force (in kg or lb) needed to set a hook into a bream's mouth.

trying to find a baitcasting rod strong enough to cast 1/16oz jigs but strong enough to set a hook.

Thanx guys.

I dont know the exact force needed to set a hook, but it wouldn't be much, especially if your using good hooks!
Just one question, why do you want a baitcaster. Threadlines have so many advatages over them in terms of bream fishing!?


dave

[Ol' slab sides]

Get a threadline outfit you'll save yourself a lot of frustration, even with 1/8oz. jigs your gunna have trouble...

slab

[Rayman]

i think i just fish baitcaster more confidently

and i think that helps my fishing

and it's easier to use (4 me anyway)

Thanx guys

[Stuie_02]

Hey Rayman

I think the actual queation your asking has to points of view on it really. The poundage to break through the bream rubber lips or side of its jaw would be dependant on a whole bunch of factors.

Things like how aggressive was the take, how sharp and strong the hook are.

strength of line and type of line should make a fair amount of difference as a 6lb mono line needs only 3lb of pressure from the fish and 3lb from the fisherperson befre it breaks. hahaha the flip side of this is that mono need 30% stretch andso the amount of breaking strain reached needs to be done so at a distance.

GSP is a whole different kettle of bream the line has virtually no memory or stretch. so 5% of stretch becomes very little room for some serious lunging dives at the last minute.

you can get a set of kitchen scale and hang them off something or get a friend to hold them. attach your llne to the scales and aim directly at the scales so you can lift about 3lb absolute max. I err the side of grace so i dont snap rods. a good bream of 4lb and work on the principle of about 75% of that (3lb)

I think baitcaster have slightly better drag systems than threadlines but i have never heard of bream spooling anyone (yet, please be me). I think drag needs to be enough to set the hook and not overload a 7ft rod at close corners.

Cheers
Stuie

[chris_lemess]

I have a Daiwa CV-X 105 with 4lb braid and a 1-3kg Struddie. This is more than enough to set a hook in the mouth of a bream, but I wouldn't want to be casting anything lighter than a Scorpion 52... preferably something like a River2Sea or a Bennet Merlin...

And forget plastics... you'll definately struggle with anything less than 1/8th, and 1/16th or less is what you need for bream most of the time.

As long as you have a decent baitcaster, and a nice whippy rod, you should be fine... most of fishing a baitcaster comes down to the angler and the breaking system, which in most cases these days is adequate for lighter lures. If you're an experienced baitcaster user, sure, go for it; there are no rules to say you can't catch bream on b'cast tackle! :)