spooling up with Fireline

[fatman]

Hi guys,

I have a few questions about spooling on Fireline:-

Q. what sort of tension should I apply??, i belive it has to be put on tight

Q. Does heat affect Fireline?? ie: if I use a rag to tension mono it will affect it, is Fireline the same??

Q. how do you guys apply tension to get the line on tightly??

FATMAN

[Richo]

Fatman,

I spool it up reasonably tight, but nothing outrageous, you`ll find it tighten up after a bit of use, Ive seen Jimi`s before and after for proof of that.

I wouldn`t use a rag, but I do place a pencil or something through the spool, and place it between my feet for a bit of pressure. (has worked for me so far. This is if you don`t have someone to hold it)

I chuck the reel on my rod and wind it on using the guides, this with someone holding it or my feet has managed it so far.

I think you get the gist of my method...:)

cheers

[Sandworm]

What if the best....... well how far untill the edge of the spool should you fill it...

eg right till its almost over the spool edge? will this make the line come off easyer, or should there be a lip? if so how much


how you understand what i am trying to get at (rushed at work)
regards

[jimi]

On the fireline box it says to fill to within 1/8" from the spool lip. Obviously the closer the better in terms of less resistance when casting.

However, if you overfill it you will get loops jumping off the reel more often. I find that fireline usually beds down after a while and you will loose some anyway to tangles and retying knots, so it's probably better to go over rather than underfill.


James.

One thing to note is that if you put a lot of tension on the fireline when spooling up, dont fill it to the limit. If you do, when you cast and wind in, the tension comes of and the fireline is then spooled way past the reels capacity. I hope this makes sense. You will get heaps of loops coming off your spool!!!
Be careful.
I think the norm is to spool to 1/8th inch from the lip of the spool!


dave

[docbromley]

Richo - you say that you place a pencil through the spool and apply pressure with your feet.

If my memory serves me correctly, the instructions that come with fireline say to lay the spool flat when spooling it.

I hope I am right because that's the way I did it last time - it seems to perform ok.

Doc

I've heard that laying it flat can cause line twist. The first time i did it, i layed it flat and i had no problems, but just in case, i now do it with the pencil method.

Dave

[MATTY]

fatman,
i've only just started using it but i just followed instructions on the pack.put on with spool label facing up,i used a rag to tension line and filled it up to within 3mm.seems to work ok for me.i followed a few others advice on keeping line tensioned between fingers on the first few winds after casting and have had no probs at all.

[jimi]

Doc, I think that is very important for spinning reels. When the line is wound on, the bail arm twists it. If the line comes off the spool from the side, it will be twisted by the spool and then untwisted by the reel to lay properly on your reel.

If it just comes straight off the fireline spool, it will be only be twisted once by the reel. That means the line will be twisted on your reel which is not good. You can tell if the line is twisted by stopping every now and then when spooling up, and holding the line to form a large loop. If it is twisted, the loop arms will naturally twist together.

For baitcasters using the revolving spool method is fine as they don't twist the line.

For spinning reels, the line should come off the side of the fireline spool in the same direction as your bail arm spins (usually clockwise).

James

That sounds like a good theory. Does line twist show in fireline though. It is supposed to have no memory!!! I'm yet to have a problem so it can't be too big a drama. Mind you, buth my reels have anti twist line rollers, (Diawa, Tica).

Dave

[jimi]

Dave, line twist should show in any line, after all it's really just stored energy in the line. I have noticed it in fireline when bait fishing (not for bream) with baits that spin.

If you don't have any line twist don't worry about it. It's not that hard to get out of the line anyway. Usually it only affects the last few meters (if it's caused by a spinning lure or bait), so you could cut that bit off if it gets bad.

Another fix is to cut everything off your line and let it out behind a boat when you are going fast. That works for me, and only takes about 15 minutes to work out the twist.

James.