removig the lower trebles

[rodmy]

i have read that its a good idea to remove to trebles under the HB's belly, to reduce snagging whilst not reducing hook ups,

is this true?

[mike_mad_fisho]

gday
have a look at the thread in hardbodies called removing trebles and couldnt have been more wrong.
michael

[Bear]

I still tend to on lures that are smaller where the trebles have a tendency to hook over each other.

Must admit, since getting a boat I haven't had to worry about snags so much so I have been putting them back on.

One thing, I'm yet to get a bream mouth hooked on the front treble.

[madsurfe]

I couldn't fish without the front treble. Most of my Bream have monstered the middle of the lure and I even had one take the front treble and split ring during a solid fight (Bream 1/JP 0). I wish I had my favorite lure to show you all the missing colour around the middle from strikes but it went awol on the weekend.

[Geoff R]

I find that most of the time I am floating my lures over structure and I rarely get a snag up due to the front treble, I reckon it makes your lure swim funny aswell. I have lost count of front treble hook up's and have lost a middle split ring and treble to a mother of a Bream to. Craig stewart will tell you all about a story where he couldn't put his rod in the water at one stage cause I was hooking up to Bream that fast,on the front treble, that he couldn't put down the net.
Actually leave them off, I'll catch more fish than you:p (LOL)
Geoff
Below a pic of a front treble hooked Bream that stopped Craig from fishing

[Ol' slab sides]

What about teeny crawfish do you still run two hooks?

[Geoff R]

Slabby, if I may call you slabby?
Richo lost a monster of a Bream on my boat recently while using a rebel tiny deep diving craw, it was unstopable you should of heard his reel screaming as it took line. I find the Tiny hooks on them are substandard and when we retrieved Richo's lure his "middle" hook was all busted up. (pm him and ask him about it)
I keep all my trebles on and would urge every one else to do so as well, I am by no means an expert or professional, just passionate about "Lure Spinning" and am offering my own personal advice.
Are you land based Slabby? I think that would be why you would snag up alot, when you consider the angles of retrieve to that of a boater.
Buy a Tackle Back and get one of your old handlines out of the shed that you have got rigged up to haul MOBY DICK out of the creek. It may save you some lures and stop you getting wet.
Geoff

[Lizardboy]

Is removing the front treble perhaps justified if it makes the lure a slow rise floater (when it was previously a sinker )

ie would the benefit of extra strikes gained from the lure being a slow rise floater out weigh the extra hookups from having 2 sets of trebles. From what I've read in the bream bible it would.
Just wanted to put a different spin on the topic.
What does everyone else think?

Lizard

[chris_lemess]

Lizard - I use slow sinkers often and sometimes catch just as many bream on them... yes, if you want the lure to float, take the front trble off, but I'd rather change to a finer gauge hook and smaller split rings and keep the two trebles. I get heaps of bream on the middle treble...

Chris

[saltydog]

G'day I posted a thread not long ago about front trebles and received some good feedback. The general feeling was to keep the front trebles on in the majority of situations.
In special situations the positives of removing front trebles start to outweigh the negatives (depending on how you look at it, of course.).
Basically it comes down to Front Trebs on, more chance of landing fish but the downsyde is more chance of getting snagged and losing that $10-$15 lure, and the other way round if you remove them.
I also think that having plenty of lure fishing expierience would help in being able to read what the lure is doing under the water ie. when it is coming into contact with potential lure traps and and being able to react correctly so as to get the lure through and back fishing.
Good luck to ya mate
saltydog

[chris_lemess]

I don't get all this stuff about losing lures due to snags... I haven't lost a hardbodied minnow in months and months? I guess shorebased anglers would be the ones losing the lures, because I certainly go and collect every lure I snag up...

Chris

[Geoff R]

It would be good if you call yourself Land based or a Seadog as I think the feed back would be different.
I rarely loose lures to snags due to hangups, and I am an advocate of keeping them on.
I suggest you Landbased guys wear bordies and go for a swim if you are loosing lures, go hard or go home.

DANGERMAN
Here's a picture of me retrieving Bear's wifes lure from a tree, for me it's the thrill of the hunt. I dived out of Bear's boat, Swam through the snag, climbed up the tree, retrieved the lure (which is much higher than in the pic) and bombied back into the water. Risky and the snag becomes "quiet:p " afterwards(LOL) but i saved Bears lure and had fun in the process.

Regards Geoff

[chris_lemess]

LOL Geoff! Don't you just hate having to go in and ruin a perfectly good snag which you know is holding fish? Yesterday I said to Evan, after carving up a snag with the Kota prop, and stirring up a whole heap of silt in the process; "look see this is why I hate collecting lures 'cause you ruin the snag... hang on - I've got a fish!" :D Out comes a solid 900g bream! Gotta love that!

Chris

[Craig_S]

Love that pic, pity you couldnt post the video!

[Geoff R]

I might change the name of that site:rolleyes: I will see if they run on my site and put em up later.
I gotta go now,
Warrens shop is looking the goods
Craig why aren't you fishing?
I really need to go for a fish?
Geoff

[Craig_S]

Mate, I came, I saw, I conquered - I got lonely and went home;)

[Ol' slab sides]

Originally posted by Geoff P
Slabby, if I may call you slabby?
Richo lost a monster of a Bream on my boat recently while using a rebel tiny deep diving craw, it was unstopable you should of heard his reel screaming as it took line. I find the Tiny hooks on them are substandard and when we retrieved Richo's lure his "middle" hook was all busted up. (pm him and ask him about it)
I keep all my trebles on and would urge every one else to do so as well, I am by no means an expert or professional, just passionate about "Lure Spinning" and am offering my own personal advice.
Are you land based Slabby? I think that would be why you would snag up alot, when you consider the angles of retrieve to that of a boater.
Buy a Tackle Back and get one of your old handlines out of the shed that you have got rigged up to haul MOBY DICK out of the creek. It may save you some lures and stop you getting wet.
Geoff

Hey geoff do you find that aftermarket chemicals weigh your teeny craws down making them neutral or sinkers??

[AndrewH]

Geoff P, all I can say is that you seem like an amusing guy to fish with.

:)

Champion

[Bear]

Oh he certainly is Andrew.

How many guys do you have jump off the back of the boat.

He's a lot of fun and we're lucky to have him here.

[Geoff R]

Thanks guys:o , I like to be a friendly bloke and making other people feel welcome is what i try to do.
As for the trebles on the craw's it's been a hassle to find em small enough, which i still havn't, so i can't say if they do or don't. The standard ones are better than nothing, but it would be worth keeping an eye open for the latest Mustad hooks. I read somewhere they are releasing a new range of all singing all dancing trebles, they might just release the size we need for them.
Geoff

[MATTY]

this hasnt got much to do with this thread but had a look at mustads site and came up with these 2 interesting hook styles.
anybody fished with doubles or single hooks?

[MATTY]

this is the other one.

[Richo]

Interesting Pic, and nice tree work geoff, I think power poles might be next:D ;) but those trebles in the last picture did they have the barbs on the outside??

cheers

richo

[saltydog]

Yeah matty on a hard ,solid plastic fake prawn I got from somewhere ages ago. Use it every now and then ,had a few hits but never any hook ups.
It's the only place I've ever seen them. Until now.
Ithink that the hooks claim to fame is no need for split rings.
Sacrifice a perfectly good hook just so you don't have to deal with split rings,
Sounds dodgy to me
Saltydog