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DAGGA
03-07-2005, 02:10 AM
Well i know the top 5 SPs and top 5 HBs get asked every now and then so what are each of your faviroute top 5 Jigheads (name size hook and weight also)
Its only dawned on me how important it is matching the right jighead to the type of Soft Plastic you use.

deacon
03-07-2005, 02:20 AM
enviros in minnow 1/32 size 2

owner jh15 1/16 size 4

gama round 211 1/22 size 2

enviro round 1/32 4

deacon

Conehead
03-07-2005, 05:02 AM
Just use squidgy 1.5 #4 most of the time...If I havn't snagged them all.

Sometimes gamma' 1/16 round.

eddystone
03-07-2005, 05:07 AM
I use nitros 99% of the time.

Ecogear skip in shade are ok as are the shirasu heads for certain applictions.

eddy

lure_muncher
03-07-2005, 05:15 AM
75% Gama 211
25% Squidgies 1.5gm #4 and #2

Will be getting Nitros for BM and otehr brands to try. Ive stopped buying Gam's for now I have 10 1/16, 1/22 and 1/32's

Conehead
03-07-2005, 05:19 AM
Yeah sometimes use the 1/32 shirasu heads for 1 inch Nymphs.;)

These are the ones with no keeper right Eddy?

eddystone
03-07-2005, 05:21 AM
Yep conehead they are the ones.

Good for thin plastics like atomic drop shot worms......

eddy

Conehead
03-07-2005, 05:28 AM
Yeah great for thin plastics.

Bought them for atomic grubs, but I found the size 6 hook a little too short for them.:(

Like I said earlier I now use them on 1 inch stuff.;)

lure_muncher
03-07-2005, 05:30 AM
Hye, Rayn, what do you use on Atomics? Gama's?

What 3 Squidgy Colours/Tails would you choose?

Conehead
03-07-2005, 05:36 AM
Use the 1.5 squidgys on atomics mate.:) Sometime the gammas'.

As for the squidgies...umm...would have to go with Bloodworm, Jelly prawn and Killer tomato. All #2 wrigglers.;)

lure_muncher
03-07-2005, 05:49 AM
OK, cool. Whats the rpice for squidgies, mate? I have $19.10 for Squidgies :D :D

Conehead
03-07-2005, 05:57 AM
Most places like K-Mart/Big W have them for around $7.00.:)

Have you got any yet mate?

Conehead
03-07-2005, 05:59 AM
Perhaps even buy a packet of flickbaits???Evil Minnow???:cool:

breaming_season
03-07-2005, 06:09 AM
jiggy jig jigheads are awsome, i use 1/16th size 4 and i am awaiting for the new bullet head 1/8th size 1's to arrivve into stock, they will be awsome for pinkies.


cheers greg

lure_muncher
03-07-2005, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by Conehead
Most places like K-Mart/Big W have them for around $7.00.:)

Have you got any yet mate?

Not yet (excluding a pack I got that came with a dvd), but I watched the dvd and now I want some, bloody!

Wrigglers are the best yeah?

Conehead
03-07-2005, 06:23 AM
They certainly work mate.

lure_muncher
03-07-2005, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by breaming_season
jiggy jig jigheads are awsome, i use 1/16th size 4 and i am awaiting for the new bullet head 1/8th size 1's to arrivve into stock, they will be awsome for pinkies.


cheers greg

Hey greg, where do you get them mate?

lure_muncher
03-07-2005, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by Conehead
Perhaps even buy a packet of flickbaits???Evil Minnow???:cool:

Where to get a pack mate, have $10.10. Perhaps I should get some 1gm #4 or 1.5 #2's?

Cheers
Rohan

Conehead
03-07-2005, 06:41 AM
Can get em' anywhere mate.

Aussie, JV, CA Bentleigh (I think).

Go to the boatshow now mate! You can get 85mm Flickbaits for 6 bucks!:cool: :eek: :cool:

troy-the-boy
03-07-2005, 07:15 AM
Well best five jig heads. They would the 5 that best match the 5 best SP's wind, current and tide movement. Which now has changed again. So here I go. Well actually you couldn't go the best five because there is to many variables. Some instances might call for a 1/2 gm head half an hour later you might have to go to a 1gm head and as the tide starts to turns then you might have to go up to 1/8 th head with each stage of the tide. MMMMM There goes my five on 1 SP. In a nut shell Nitro heads. Various heads and various weights for each SP and conditon. Plus they are sharp !!!!!!!!!!.
Troy

Brad Y
03-07-2005, 07:18 AM
Jiggy jigs can be purchased from their web site

www.jiggyjigs.com

10 jigs for under 10 bucks you cant go wrong and they are really sharp owner hooks. New profiles coming soon apparently.

Cheaper than 5 jigs for around 8 bucks for gamas

Evan
03-07-2005, 09:57 AM
im a bit sceptical about this whole jig head shape for different plastics..... can you tell if it makes a difference what shape you are using in terms of catch rate.

i know some people will say it improves the action of the lure but if fished side by side with other shapes does your catch rate actually improve?

i used to make my own jigs but now exclusively use jiggy jigs (mainly due to the price). i have used bullet heads etc but always revert back to the good old round heads and cant really tell any difference. it seems to me that jig head shape is simply just a marketing technique used to catch fisherman!

what do you guys think?

eddystone
03-07-2005, 05:36 PM
Evan,

Well the marketing has worked if thats the case!!

A while back it was round or nothing....

Now MANY anglers have caught on to the profile heads such as nitros.

I always use profiled heads on stick baits as i do believe these a better suited. If nothing else they look more natural.......

eddy

DAGGA
03-07-2005, 11:30 PM
Yer i agree with Eddy. I reckon a profile shaped kind of jighead looks better then a ball head on a stick bait.
Ball heads are ok for grubs ect though.

Evan
04-07-2005, 06:52 AM
Yes eddy im not disagreeing with you there..... i know all jigs catch fish! my point is do YOU catch more fish using specific types of heads?

fished side by side nitro with a round head, 2 anglers same technique etc does one catch more than the other?

IMO i wouldnt think so....

breaming_season
04-07-2005, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Evan
i have used bullet heads etc but always revert back to the good old round heads and cant really tell any difference.

hi mate, a bullet or profile head will give a minnow more actine to what a round ball head will. Jiggy jigs will soon have the bullet shape head in to for all your minnow fishing! gotta love the cheapness for quality of jiggy jigs eyy!!!:D :D

eddystone
04-07-2005, 06:59 AM
Evan,

In a word YES.....I do believe they will........

eddy

Nath_18
04-07-2005, 07:07 AM
Top five in no particular order -

Owner

Jiggy Jigs

Nitro

Gamma

TT

Cheers, Nathan

I cant wait for these Jiggy jig Bullet heads to come in Greg :D

cheers, Nathan

Conehead
04-07-2005, 07:19 AM
I use a round head on Berkley minnows if I have to use a faster than normal retrieve.

Basically the fish don't exactly have enough time to check out what head your using so it's alright to use rounds on minnows in situations like these when you need to use a faster retrieve.

Get what I'm saying?:)

Mitch
04-07-2005, 10:57 AM
JiggyJigs..

Cheap.

Owner Hooks.

Great quality.

Soon to be released in "Chris Lemess Pink finish"

Round head 1/16...come on..do you reallllly need anything else? haha ;-)

Dave, stop eating the lead.

Evan
04-07-2005, 11:32 AM
more action??? what evidence are you using to back that up?

playing the devils advocate here but we are talking a miniscule amount of surface area, i doubt very much that the water resistance would vary the action of a jig that much..... it would be interesting if the jigmakers have filmed the action underwater! (dave a bit of research for you do do!!!:D)

Eddy send me a packet of your beloved nitros and i will test them out fished side by side with round heads.... better yet i will send you a pack of jiggy jigs and see if you can tell me if there is any difference.... :D

Craig
05-07-2005, 01:43 AM
Funny you ask this question Evan as I was just wondering the same thing. I used a gama cobra head the other day and caught fish but did it add any action - don't think so.

Am going to test both in a fish tank and will let you know.

eddystone
05-07-2005, 03:38 AM
Evan,

I'm not sponsored by nitro. So i'm not gunna go and buy some just so you can test them.....

Doesn't make any difference to me if you use them or not.

Why are jiggy jigs making profile heads? It would be pointless wouldn't it as they don;t fish any better than round heads!!!

eddy

Dave Press
05-07-2005, 03:54 AM
My bullets and minnow head are released as of today...just about to add them to my site.
There are some interesting comments being made about shapes and the like.
I personally think that at the small sizes for bream it may make a small difference, but not enough to justify a change from round heads if they are working for you. Its all a confidence thing. In bigger sizes the surface area is a lot bigger and therefore a difference would be far more significant. This is MY opinion. I can just about garauntee that even though I sell and profile heads...I'll still be using round heads for my bream fishing. They work as good as any other. You'll notice the guys arguing this point have been on here and fishing for bream longer than 99% of anyong on here, so their points have a lot of knowledge behind them.

As for my top 5...its obviously bias...but I wont fish anything thats not using an Owner hook.

Dave

swoffa
05-07-2005, 04:33 AM
Owner jh-15's for anything over 2 1/2 inches long

TT's for the smaller stuff

TT HWS for finnesse situations

Richo
05-07-2005, 04:42 AM
Used them all and they all work - simple as that really. At the moment Im using gama round 25`s in size 1 and 2, no probs with them.

cheers

Shortlite
05-07-2005, 06:15 AM
There a few bugs ther to be worked out Dave. The links to the different jighead pages aren't working.

Richo
05-07-2005, 06:30 AM
I will add Ive had Jiggys since Dave brought them out, and have caught on them as well - very very sticky. ;)

Evan
05-07-2005, 07:48 AM
Dave has summed it up perfectly, its a confidence thing.... i know all the different heads work, all i am saying is that IMO i believe it makes no difference.... the only evidence i have is that my catch rate does not improve using one against the other.... simple as that as Richo puts it!! :D

i find it ammusing how some people on this site preach about stuff like this without having the evidence / experience to back up their statements....

you ask why is dave bringing out profile heads? answer is they do work and there is a market for them...

im not sponsered by jiggy jigs either but send me your address Eddy and ill post you some for your birthday present!! you can tell me if your catchrate drops!! i ll be very surprised if it doesnt improve given the sharpness / strength of jiggy jigs! :D

eddystone
05-07-2005, 05:32 PM
Evan,

Often its the small things that matter.......

Confidence is the a big factor no doubt.......

I have fished round heads in the past and they do catch fish.

I know of one (and others) VERY good angler that LOVES nitros!! Much better than me and a better angler than 99% of aussie anglers out there. I won;t argue with him........

eddy

chuckthrillseek
14-07-2005, 09:44 AM
i like the Nitros, they hold the big ones really well ;) :D

http://www.fishsa.com/FSAForumAttachments/4_yum_a_minnow_worm_on_a_nitro.jpg

DAGGA
14-07-2005, 10:14 AM
Evan feel free to send me some jiggy jigs... lol
I do believe that certain shape heads will make the lure swim differently even if it is very subtle and yer the confedence side of it is huge factor for me.
With Gama Cobras i have been using of late i reckon they sink more flatter rather the pin dropping and they dart more upwards like a distressed minnow would.
It might just be crappy observations on my part but personally i try to suite jigheads to different SPs but thats just personal prefference and everyones entitled to that.....

Baldy-Tas
14-07-2005, 11:36 AM
Hey guys,

Interesting topic this one, heres my 2 bobs worth:rolleyes:

I dont think the different shapes change the action of the same sp much at all, its more the weight that effects the action.

Where I do think the different shape heads work are on different shaped plastics, like the little flat faced squidgy shads, I think they fit/work better with round heads.

Then the slimline baitfish SPs match up better with the bullet profile.but then again, the small roundhead jigs seem to work ok as well. I guess its all about keeping the head in proportion to the body.

Im not much of a tackle junky, but those are the things ive noticed with the few different brand jigs ive tryed;)

Cheers
Baldy

Mick
14-07-2005, 01:18 PM
Its interesting all the discussion on the head of the jigs and not the hook it self, at the end of the day the head is just a piece of lead it is the pointy bit that catches the fish.

If you take a look at different types of jig hooks (Gamakatsu, Eagle Claw, Owner, Daiichi, Matsu,etc)you will notice a lot of differences in strength, barb, point, gape and length. All these things should be taken in to consideration when choosing a jighead to suit the fish you are after, the terrain and even the type of gear you use.

For example if you take a look at a heavy gammy and compare it to a heavy daiichi, you will notice the points are very different. The point on the gammy is shorter and it has shoulders were the daiichi has a longer point and less noticeable shoulders. If I was using a light tipped rod I on spooky fish, I would go for the daiichi as the thinner longer point would take less tip pressure to penetrate, but even though it is an easier hook to set, because of the fine tip it is also an easier hook to roll the tip if it hits a hard bit.

If I am fishing racks or rough country, I would probably use some thing like an eagle claw 630, which is a heavy duty hook with heavy point and barb and is capable of slamming in to any fish.

I've been making jigheads for about 10 years now and the best advice I can give any one is worry less about the head shape and more about the hook.